Goku VS The Almighty | The Honest Truth transcript

The first thing to do in this conversation is to define what the almighty even does. This ability is basically something that could fill an entire screen with powers, similar to what you'd see in a fight in maybe something like Madaka Box. Well, maybe not that many, but I'll defer to watching a bleach YouTuber analysis on Almighty for the full description of its many ins and outs so I don't waste 40 minutes of your time here.

But to be concise, it's the ability to see and alter the future. The big debate from there is exactly how he alters the future in which there's a few possibilities and categories. But the most important thing to note as a few limitations to the almighty are that he can alter into possibilities. Meaning something that isn't possible is reasonably off the table. An example of this is how he absorbs more powers to enhance his almighty, but doesn't use any of these stolen useful powers directly in front of the viewer many times, implying he is likely using them to expand his personal possibilities or just enhancing his own power level, implying strength levels also matter.

The other is how in which futures he's even seeing. in which is it things revolving around his future and the futures of individuals he perceives or the future of the time spaces he is witnessing. If the future revolves around the visualization of his timeline and its branching possibilities, per se, you could arguably cut it off by taking him to a foreign or higher time space than the Almighty has been shown to see the future of, especially if the things within it are beyond his comprehension, as it's impossible for him to interact with what is beyond his own comprehension.

In fact, even things within his comprehension are things he can reasonably be mistaken about based on certain circumstances. He's obviously not actually truly omnisient by the definitions you'd prescribe for the Abrahamic God as an example. The final big thing is how he personally interacts with the futures to change them. Is it some type of reality warping he simply exerts power over in some shape or form? Or does he personally leap into all futures himself?

At first, I thought it was obvious he simply reality warps the futures or the immediate future of choice and thus changes all possibilities from that point rather than personally jumping into one. However, he also only needs to jump into one future to realistically alter all possible futures that branch from that point he's foreseen anyway, as it would change all the futures from there with the past explanations being completely irrelevant.

This is sort of explained as Yu-Ha explains that Ichigo and Ouruhime can alter the future by interacting with the present moment that their eyes can perceive, but Yu-Ha can just see and perceive with infinite possible moments. One problem I have with him leaping into all futures as timelines is obviously it mean multiple uh could appear in one future and timeline at the same time, which would make UA unbeatable by any metric within his own story in which he basically already was.

Now, this is going to be off the cuff, but I actually wrote that part of the script 2 days before UA literally appeared multiple times in his own timeline. However, it should be noted that these clones of UA are they're not necessarily clones. They're more so the same Yu-Ha embodying or being somewhat omnipresent. the the omnipresent I'm going to use that very loosely throughout all of the realms that he obviously has authority over allowing him to sort of be in all places at once within the story rather than a second true uh from a different point in time appearing and joining forces with him.

I'll go over some of the infinite yua which I'm going to call him sort of similar to infinite Zamasu infinite uh I'll go over more of that near the section where we talk about Goku having to deal with it. All in all, I'd say that it doesn't actually matter for this specific topic, though. Uh used to describe his ability as a form of power null almost as well, as when he'd see an ability, he could know it and then make it useless against him.

This is later not necessarily recconed, but a bit expounded upon as more so him choosing futures where he gets around things and more of a simple descriptor of being able to change the future. His knowledge of powers and making them useless is also a bit up to interpretation as well, but it can be used to counter Ichibbe's multi-layered power null techniques that can remove him from existence and return him to nothingness.

His hacks abilities likely change what is possible in terms of endless strings of combat potentials. I'll go over what's important against someone like Goku later, but some people in Bleach also ignore the Almighty, such as the Soul King and Mimihagi, who represents stillness. This concept of stillness seems to be somewhat of a counter to Yua's ability to perceive it with the Almighty. If something is also not a power, but more along the lines of a physical object or phenomenon, perhaps something like raw power, it is likely something Yua cannot bypass without sufficient reasoning for doing so, which is what made the still silver arrow from Uru at the end so potent alongside its many lore implications.

In fact, within Bleach, hacks abilities are actually nullified by great strength. And even Hoyoku Eizen thought that Dongai Ichigo simply traded all his spiritual pressure for immense physical power and that allowed him to interact with his many abilities. Now that you have a general idea of the Almighty, I'll teach you how it will interact with Goku. The Goku we'll be using is specifically Dragon Ball Super Goku with variations of lore from both the anime and manga.

I'll reference alternate materials such as video games for situations as hypotheticals when there isn't a direct answer in the main Super Run, but it won't be a main point of evidence. I won't be using a joint cannon Goku you'd usually see on YouTube to give Goku every power and scaling option, every piece of Dragon Ball media and material possible to create this sort of hypothetical, to be honest, non-existent, overpowered variation of Goku.

The first thing when it comes to a Dragon Ball character, most specifically a divine Dragon Ball character that has reached god status, is what does the future even mean for them? Goku, while in Super Saiyan God, Super Saiyan Blue, and Ultra Instinct, has a unique hack I'll refer to as cosmological status, in Dragon Ball terms, this would be his status as a deity. This status is first described obviously by the battle of God's arc and has a few methods of proving it.

The main one is Whis describing Goku's specific level in which he says he isn't sure if he's at the same level of God as the Supreme Kai and Beerus, but he is a god like them. This level of God is something to take note of, and many people ignore because they can't see the obvious implication of what power or ability or reason that would grant him. Besides what we've already seen, Goku's always been stronger than certain gods.

And this is also important because Goku has been stronger than the Supreme Kai since the Buu saga, long before this form and long before he had god key or god status, which means the divine property and state is something entirely different than power level. Some contenders will say that this only applies to the Super Saiyan God ritual in which it's debated what level of a god he is at. And then later during their training, we see that they're compared to Beerus via the enormous size of his castle compared to them, showing that they are nothing as a deity.

My only counter to this is that other materials describes them as deities with the novels sometimes being translated as a Beeruslike deity and all gods of destruction and others comment on their status whenever they transform in respect. irregardless of their strength level compared to their opposition. Even if their opposition rivals them, they never comment on the divine status of the opposition, except for rare cases.

This cosmological status is further reason they give so much respect to Goku as a fighter despite his power level. And all stand up in respect for Ultra Instinct Mastered when he faces Jiren, but not when Jiren himself powers up to a level that would require mastered Ultra Instinct to begin with. Similar to how god status such as the soul king in Bleach gives changes to their ability to alter or be seen in time, Dragon Ball characters have more set places and ability to alter set places in time depending on cosmological status.

In fact, I would argue it's actually greater. This is explained when Trunks argues to Beerus that the androids being destroyed in the past didn't affect the androids in the future. I.e., it is an alternate and separate timeline and no longer simply the future. So changing something in the past of a different timeline than yours didn't affect the presence of yours. Beerus then makes a counterargument that gods obliterating gods will surely have an effect on spaceime.

And Whis does not correct him on this. Whis in fact has the ability to not only understand this, but he sends future Trunks to a different timeline on his own without a time machine. The first counterargument here for this for one is that future Zamasu and Goku Black both survive which seemingly make Beerus wrong or two Beerus is lying so Trunk stops breaking the laws of time. For counter example one, the problem is that future Zamasu was given immortality by Super Shenron, who even Zeno and the Grand Priest actually respect and use as a grand prize to fix their entire timeline and its multiple macrocosms erased from existence by Zeno at will.

Beerus not being able to take out someone immortalized by Super Shenron isn't an anti feat for Beerus. It simply defines Super Shenron's scale of power. Super Shenron also being made by a god. a god specifically called Dragon God Zama, giving Super Shenron not only immense multi- macrocosm scaled power, but likely cosmological status and even possibly superior cosmological status, being able to do whatever is within his creator's power if he is obviously constructed similar to Shenron, the Shenron on Earth or Perunga from Namek.

Goku Black, while not immortal, is given a time ring, making him not bound by changes to time, making him a causal while wearing it. This is to give all supreme kais the ability to observe time and distortions and so forth without altering too many things or being ins snared and trapped in that point in time. This ring stops Beerus from eradicating him entirely. As for the Beerus lying argument, I believe this for a while.

However, it requires more proof to assert he's lying than vice versa. Every time Beerus lies for the most part, it is later revealed that he was lying or why he was lying. Such as when he was laring in Battle of Gods to bring out Super Saiyan God and so forth, and he wasn't actually using any of his true full power. His lies are usually very subtle and nodded to obviously by Whis and the plot. However, here his lie would just make him come off as ignorant and never elaborated on.

It seems more based on his knowledge of stronger gods obliterating other gods and some type of history with it taught to him in this regard. possibly something in line with his Hawkeye and God of Destruction role power specifically. This then raises a third question which is why doesn't Zeno obliterate the gods of every timeline when he erases future Trunks timeline. He is called the god of gods. But in this case, his purpose may be different.

For one, all of the gods are actually killed by Goku Black before this and not through a Hawkeye. But in this case, his purpose may be different than a god of destruction. Rather than having absolute authority over something ruled over by another Zeno and not exactly being a onetoone god like Beerus due to his ability to annihilate all things, he may specifically target just his timeline, which actually does alter artifacts in other timelines such as time rings and beings going back in time through wormholes like infinite Zamasu.

But the Beerus lying argument is still somewhat possible. It makes sense for him to try and dissuade Trunks. However, Trunks would likely scramble back to the future anyway. I'd also say his destruction power in particular works a bit differently than maybe Zeno's ability and Zamasu Black had alterations to his causality that caused him to be mistaken that is very specifically referenced in the anime way too many times.

I'd say it's more reasonable to assume that there is more evidence that he is telling the truth. Later, we see that amplifications of divine power and surpassing Super Saiyan God. This cosmological status is taken at its surface level not only gives them the ability to not be affected by changes in time, but it also gives them something that Yuan in particular doesn't have, and that's the ability to alter the past, such as Sukushima's manipulation of him breaking everything in the future by changing the past in which it would lead up to it being broken.

Later, we see that amplifications of divine power and surpassing Super Saiyan God gives Goku directly the ability to start messing with time and space. While this was already a concept, I'd say around the fusion saga of Dragon Ball Z, such as with Super Buu and Gotenks, it's more specifically shown in Dragon Ball Super, such as Goku being able to fight someone skipping into the future, like Hit and his time skip, and Jiren being specifically stated to be stronger and surpassing time, being able to move and overpower it being frozen around him.

In the manga, these are not concepts, but in the anime, it's very blatant. Even them shaking an eternal void of nothing, which I've explained how in many videos, adds more evidence and credence to this. It'd be really interesting to see how Yu-Ha would attempt to use the Almighty in the tournament of power as an example earlier. A space that is eternally nothing with no timeline of note, even being described as having no concept of space and time in alternate materials, i.e. a sticker book.

The next thing to talk about is higher timelines in Dragon Ball. For instance, the neutral space that hosts the universe 6 tournament arc. It is a greater space and timeline that houses both macrocosms from universe 6 and 7 and even the other 10 with Zeno's palace also sitting in a greater space and timeline despite universe 7 being an infinitely expansive multi-layered macrocosm with many subsets of infinity and alterations such as the subspace with no concept of space and time.

This is interesting because Hit can actually time skip in neutral space, meaning he is time skipping through a higher time space that is not connected and hermatically sealed off from many other points in the universe 7 macrocosm. And Goku and Super Saiyan Blue Kaoken Time actually chases him basically into the brief future to then punch him in the face. The subspace is also another interesting cosmological point in Dragon Ball as in the Dragon Ball movies.

This place with no space and time, even conceptually in the chosen, is where Dragon Ball characters run through and fight through in many movies such as the Metacooler movie. A place where almighty wouldn't even function. Stillness wouldn't even be able to explain the idea of not having a concept of space or time. From there, you get into power scaling. Now, while me and pretty much everyone thinks Goku stomps Yu-Ha in all stats, accidentally obliterating a macrocosm with a punch, surpassing its dimensionality, and then growing trillions upon trillions of times stronger, you'd imagine Yu-Ha' be a bit hardressed to actually use Almighty on Goku.

And you would be right. Goku would even register on in the Almighty, more than likely, as Dragon Ball characters probably also don't have infinite possibilities. Now, this is a strange one, but this is explained in depth in the games in particular, so take it with a grain of salt. I'm not going to use it as a main argument or anything, but in the games, every single history is affected when something as simple as the Dragon Balls are removed from them.

Let alone every possibility you and I could imagine changing in a YouTube what if. So, the higher cosmological status, the probability of having no real infinite possibilities, infinite probabilities to a story or trajectory, and honestly, cracked out stat comparisons make Almighty pretty hard to use on him. That being said though, if Almighty did for whatever reason get a read on Goku, could Yua win? Maybe. Maybe Goku would annihilate Yua.

Goku drops his guard. Uh respawns from non-existence and poisons Goku somehow, such as with the death dealing, assuming it works on Dragon Ball and non- Bleach characters. Then maybe the possibilities of how Goku could lose could theoretically exist. And they're less about Goku actually losing a straightup brawl and more how could Goku be caught off guard as he whoops Yua's ass. Think similarly to how Eizen is actually defeated.

Characters like Vegeta Blue could potentially annihilate Fusion Zamasu, who I would argue has a higher immortality than Yua. And these beings can affect the future of the gods below them are too weak in comparison. I would say that if Goku is an MUI the entire battle, Yua is not going to catch him off guard. Goku and can actually react, as an example, to Goku Black using instant transmission. I'm not joking. This literally happens in Super Saiyan Blue, let alone Ultra Instinct, which has immense instinct that can tell when someone's about to attack him from any point in the future.

Goku does also have ceiling, but he doesn't use it in character. If Goku was always on guard, let's say starts an MUI, no ability of the Almighty would ever work on him, not even poison or any type of alteration to his physicality. And he'd eventually erase him from all possible futures. And the possibilities would probably require Yu-Ha to be screaming for another power up from some unfortunate Quincy, maybe Uru or something.

Or he'd blip across the entire planet and eventually BFR him somehow to figure out how to deal with his respawning gimmick. Not that UA can respond infinitely anyway, as it's more than likely based on a few qualities shown in Bleach, such as Ashalen, with even Eisen's immortality heavily crippling him if he's utterly annihilated in a fight conventionally, leaving him prone to whatever the victor really wants for a decent time.

As a final point here, I do want to clarify that hack resistance in Dragon Ball is a bit overrated. People think, "Oh, if you're too strong, you can't be affected by any hacks ever." That is not true. We just know that stronger characters in Dragon Ball resist certain haxes from people weaker than them. But that's not always the case. Like for instance, Bobby can mind hacks Dborah and Dborah is way stronger than Dabbidi as an example.

Goku surpasses time stop and Gulo was stopping time around the Namek arc. Gohan and Krillin were stronger than Gulo and he could still freeze them in time. Now, time stop may be more related to telepathic power levels. Now, that's a video for a different day, but it's a little bit overrated and I would say that Goku does have biological weaknesses that he can't obviously just overpower all the time desp. I think that requires a bit more evidence.

And I do think even things like the gumball feet from Vegito are specifically clarified as a Vegito only ability. There's also power versus hacks in Bleach. For those that don't know, uh, in the novels, a character actually gains Kiyoko and he says, "I can't use it on Eizen or Yu-Ha because their power level is too high." So, when someone's way too strong, your hacks abilities in Bleach probably don't work. It's even implied in the games that Kachi would have beaten Baragon by just powernulling his scessence time aging ability because he's too strong to be affected by it.

So, similar to Hit kind of walking through Hit's time stop, Bleach characters have a similar phenomena as well. So, I would say that if a character is far far far too powerful, yeah, it probably does work similar to Bleach. Now, also, Rayatu, Spiritual Pressure, and Key have a lot of similarities. A lot of it is internal energy, spiritual energy creates elements, various crazy hacks. They're obviously not one to one, but they're not the most alien of abilities to each other.

Not going to say they're the same or they interact exactly the same, but they are quite similar in uh pretty much every aspect. It's sort of similar to, you know, equalizing Rayatu and Chakra a bit in a Naruto and Bleach debate, but I'd argue Ki is more similar to Rayatsu than Chakra even. And that's pretty impressive. That being said though, I hope that you guys enjoyed this video. Be sure to subscribe and check out some other Bleach YouTubers.

And I'm going to upload more Bleach content. Obviously, I do plan on making a fully fully, you know, in-depth U-HA kind of rant video just sort of similar to my Eisen one obviously after the Bleach anime ends. In terms of uh Goku having to deal with infinite U-Hawk, Goku thought he could deal with infinite Zamasu who's just doing this on a far far greater level, greater immortality, greater scale, greater scope, greater power level, everything.

And Goku thought he could deal with him. In fact, in the manga version, even though it's not the same, uh Vegito was actually going to defeat Zamasu completely with a just straight up attack. And then Goku obviously almost reaches Vegeta's love in MUI in the manga, expresses Vegito obviously in the anime. But he would likely probably punch UA out of his own reality, even in Battle of Gods, who's going to erase a bigger reality than the Bleach world by punching Beerus's fist.

And it was going to eradicate it all to non-existence on a time space level. So fusing with time space, Battle of Gods Goku could obliterate you on accident. And the only reason it was an exception is cuz fusion Zamasu is really, really powerful in comparison to just a time space. Anyways guys, hope you learned something. God bless you all. Thank you.