UPDATED Project Slayers 2 Breathing/BDA Tier List AFTER RELEASE NERFS & BUFFS transcript

Okay, so uh this is post stream. Uh I still haven't slept, but I decided to make this video for you guys. I'm going to post it and just go about my day, which is sleep. So, um there's been changes. Okay, there's been changes. I'm going to try to go through everything as quick as possible cuz I don't want this to be too long for you guys. So, there's been changes. There's been balance changes. the game released and with the release of the game a lot of things got nerfed, a lot of things got buffed, a lot of things got changed.

But the main things here, we see that Flame has um gotten buffed here. So Flame's counter uh answers skills, not just M1's. So now before Flame was kind of midi because you know skills the counter didn't like counter skills, right? So now when people throwing out skills at you, you can actually counter with the counter, not just M1's, which is actually really good cuz it's a counter should apply to everything. Um X range has increased significantly and the V um hold variant startup is reduced, so it's almost an instant cast.

It's not an instant cast, but it's damn near instant cast. So, um, flame has gotten huge buffs and honestly it definitely makes it better. Just want to throw that one out there. Water also received a buff. Waterhe hold variant now gains hyper armor. This is legitimately huge for its kit, right? The hyper armor um waterhe is again really good. Water wheel tap variant speed increased from 35 to 60. Again, huge buff to water's kit.

The hold variant um for its X move now activates immediately. Immediate uh cast abilities, especially in this game. Again, super powerful genuinely. Um, and the tap variant now applies a brief stun, uh, which allows for combo extenders. So, this is going to be good for PvE and PvP cuz we know PvP is in the game. So, yes, um, water has been buffed, flame has been buffed, and I think these pushes these two things up a tier for sure.

Insect breathing also has gotten a buff. If you guys don't know, insect is actually really good. an insect getting a um a buff is huge. So um cooldowns reduced uh from the Z move. Um with the Z move you also the eye frames are now in replaced with hyper armor. Now you can assume this is a nerf because I frames is always kind of good. Um but Hyper is also good too. I can't lie to you. Uh, so [music] there's that. I mean, I don't use insect, so I don't know that how significant the change is.

Um, remove the strict stun on final hit. I don't know what the Z move does genuinely, but still dash variant now gains a wind up cool down increase from running speed um, increase from 50 to 65. Um, and the V now drains 8% of max stamina per second whilst held. and the ultimate range has increased. So, there were some buffs and there was some nerfs. Um, cool down being increased by 3 seconds. I don't know how effective that is.

Um, but they removed the strict stun on the final hit may or may not be the super powerful. I only know a handful of insect users and I haven't actually spoke to them about this change, so I don't know how good or not good that is, but on the most part, I would say it sounds pretty good overall. And again h having hyperama is still good as well. So insect may be in the same place as it was right sound got gutted. Sound got gutted.

Its damage output got gutted. Um cool down was increases. Uh again this was a huge huge move as well. damage reduced significantly and X being a guaranteed guard break was a really huge part of its kit removed. It's not an instant guard break anymore. Um and replaced uh replaced with increased guard damage. Um, and I mean I'll be real from five to four again. Nerfed, nerfed, nerfed, nerfed again X changing and the damage decrease from its C really bad.

Really, really, really bad. So, and again, V getting nerfed as well. Sound definitely is going to go down in tier, too. We'll see. stone. Um, this is a buff. Ultimate gains hyper armor. Again, this is also a buff and counter cool down released. Stone overall got buffed. Now, I would say stone needed the buff. Um, but even with these buffs, it doesn't really change the placement of stone. Overall, as a breathing, stone is still super slow.

Again, in PvP, stone may be good, but I don't care about PvP. My tier list is for PvE exclusive. Stone, you know, pretty much in the same tier in my opinion from where it was. Thunder got nerfed essentially. Final hit lands faster is a buff. Um, this is a nerf. Wind up increased and can um X can now be perfectly blocked. It basically didn't get touched, right? So, if we're being honest, Thunder is exactly in the same place as it was before.

Venom Fangs range reduced, but this is a nerf to serpent. Um, grab now gives the grab target eye frames against everyone except the grabber. Um, for the duration of the grab. Before you grabbed, you can hit, but now you can't. So, um, again, slight nerf. Nothing that's going to change where it is. Wind got buffed. wind got buffed increase when um wind up uh reduction literally and then um allowing to function as a combo extender.

Literally really good windup reduced uh knockback removed from zero 50 to zero allowing [music] to start combos insteading ending them. Again, this is really good. Um, I'm not too sure how good it would be for boss farming, but at least for PvP, wind is definitely super good. Um, wind as well. That is a high damaging um, breathing style as well. Again, it's a buff. Definitely push it up a tier regardless, but again, I still don't know how good wind is for actual boss farming.

Um, and yeah, uh, don't know how good a lot of these things are. However, ice, um, is still super good. Ice is now the best in the game. Uh, blood manipulation, which is the main one I actually care about, blood got nerfed super hard. um X X's kit being um you know essentially stripped of what it was really good at that allowed it to really be good with boss farming in general. Um and even farming mobs in a large group.

Ex's kit being nerfed the way it did kind of ruins the whole of its kit. Um at least from what my experience, right? Ex's kit being the way it was is really really really really bad. So final hit guard break removed is bad. I frames a replace of hyper armor X having I frames was legitimately like the kit's bread and butter especially for boss farming. Now you can take damage inside of the X and X as a move like just kind of leaves you open and vulnerable like legitimately.

So anyone that has moves that can reach through that you're you're going to get punished for using X especially whilst boss farming cuz these bosses all have like hyper armor and things of that nature. So it's really bad. It's really bad. It's really bad. Um, so blood does kind of move down the tier list overall and then everything else here just doesn't matter. Um, however, um, sickles does kind of get nerfed. Sickles does get nerfed, which is, you know, pretty bad for my kit because sickles is used with um the blood manipulation.

So again, as a whole, blood got nerfed pretty hard. Pretty hard, but it is what it is. Let's get into the tier list. And now we are here. Now, the first thing on our list here is blood. I'm not going to lie. Um, I still put it S tier because its kit overall is still really good, but it's not a high S tier. It's really not. It's really not. Trust me. Dream is definitely better than blood at his current state. Dream is actually really good right now.

Genuinely. Uh, trust me. And then we have ice, which in my opinion is the bread and butter of like demons right now. Isis kit is so broken. It's so good for farming multiple mobs at a time. It's good for single target. It has a counter. Uh [laughter] yeah, ice. Ice is really a get out of jail free card. [music] Um Dream is really good as well. And Reaper I do want to put in S tier. Uh again, Reaper is interchangeable.

It can go low A tier, it can go um it can go high S A tier and it can go low uh S tier, but I'm going to leave it at S tier for now. This is really like the bread and butter for demons. These four these four demon arts right here. These four blood demon arts right here. Bread and butter for demons genuinely. Now you have the rest of the blood demon arts which just kind of blow in my opinion. Um Aazar is B. I'm sorry.

There's just no way. Nzo is still C. I'm so sorry. Arrow uh is definitely uh C tier. I don't think anything goes in the D tier for the blood demon arts genuinely. Um, this sucks as well. And Tamari also sucks. Um, I'll be real, I think Tamari is a bit better, but yeah, this is this is this is how I'm feeling. I don't really feel like anything is in the A tier. You can argue Reaper goes here, but it just this is this is how I'm feeling in terms of blood demon arts.

Now sound it uh sound's gotten nutted I want to say nerfed. I think sound's gotten gutted genuinely. Um sound I would say used to be a S tier, but with the guard break gone and the high damage reduction I think is high tier B tier. I don't even think it goes in A. Genuinely I don't think it goes in A anymore. Um, you can still farm efficiently, right? But like again, its kit overall damage has been decreased. And again, the guard break was a huge part of its kit.

Huge part of its kit gone. Thunder is still really good. I don't think it anything kind of beats ice. Uh, ice is probably the best thing in the game currently in my opinion. H insect. Uh, I want to put it here. I ain't going to lie. I got to put Reaper down. I got to put Reaper down. I got to put Got to put Reaper down. Um, insect. I'm putting an Insect in a tier mainly because it lost its eye frames. Losing your eye frames is always going to kind of be a burden to your kit.

I can't lie to you. I really cannot lie to you. Um, and we're going to put Reaper above it. Water got a huge buff. Water got a huge buff. I I'm going to place it a tier. Um, so Water's ultimate gives you eye frames when you cast it. Like legitimately, if you're in the range, you're going to get hit by it. Water's ultimate is really good. eye frames and you know it's not instant cast so you can move out of it you know in a PvP scenario you can but we're talking PvE it's going to be super good to farm PvE and it hits multiple people so it's actually really good um I don't know if I'll put it better than insect don't know but water is definitely a tier now stone regardless of um of its buffs I put in Btier.

Genuinely terrible for farming bosses with its buffs I think it's significantly better than sound right now. But you know stone's pretty slow but you can actually do a lot of combos with it now that the ultimate is um hyper armor super good. It's hyper armor on the on the stone, right? Let me just double check. Yes, ultimate now gets hyper armor. Super good. Um, and if even if they're holding block by the end of it, it it's a guaranteed block break.

As well as that, um, V tap variant second hit is guard break. So, that's two guaranteed guard breaks in his kit. Genuinely is a heavy hitter. Way better than sound. Way better than sound. So, yeah. uh genuinely good in my opinion. Um it's definitely gotten buffed compared to what it was. Definitely definitely better. And flame is also now really good um with the counter uh really good with the counter uh with the range increase as well and the reduced um startup with its V.

Super good. Super good. Now this is um with wind again. I have no real example of wind. No real example of wind. Wind could potentially be better than all of these. But at the same time, I need to see a real life example. I haven't seen anybody use wind since these buffs have been placed. Just putting wind here right now. But you got to remember um it's not back on the V. It's been completely removed. And you can start combos.

You can literally start combos with it. and Wind's kit is really combo oriented. Now, I don't know how good this would be for PvE, but genuinely, I think it's really good. Um, wind actually has a lot of damage with its kit as well if if utilized properly. There's a lot of combo extenders. There's a lot of cool downs that that have been reduced. There's a lot of windups um that have been reduced as well. Its kit is really good right now.

I want to put it I want to put it I want to put it here. It might No, it might be better than Reaper low key. So yeah, I think wind is definitely a tier right now and snake is definitely S tier. Um would I put snake below dream? I think so. I think so. I definitely think so. Uh so yeah, this is this is the what the list is looking like right now. I think it's pretty valid. Everything in C tier I think you should just definitely um avoid.

Uh B tier I guess you can use it, but like you know I guess if you it's just a preference thing at that point. If you want to use it, use it. I really just don't recommend using the blood demon art that is Arcaz. Um, and then everything A tier and above, definitely recommend using, genuinely recommend using everything in the A tier and above. And Goku is really good right now, or should I say Flame is really good right now.

Um, I think the state of the game is in a really good place in terms of um, what breathings and BDAS you can use. So yeah, after after nerfs, after patches, after this update, after the release with these new changes, this is the final result. Anyways, let me know if you guys agree. Uh, if you don't, I really don't care. If you do, let me know. If you think there should be some tweaks, let me know why. Explain your opinion.

Don't just say your opinion, explain it. I want to know what you guys are thinking. You guys are still settling settling into the game. Here's a rough idea of what you should do. Again, I genuinely don't recommend going sound, stone, and anything in B and C. There's just no point, especially if you're a demon. There's no point using the other stuff unless you genuinely want to use it. Honestly, I don't even know if blood can be considered S tier anymore.

I kind of want to push it down to A. Kind of want to push it down to A. Um, but this kit is just so good for PvE farming to the point where I just can't can't see myself putting in a I just I just can't. So, yeah. This is the final list. I'm going see you guys in the next one. Peace.