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Today, the coach is getting coached. And we are not just getting coached by anyone. We are about to get coached by the best jungler to ever play in North America. Arguably the best jungler to ever be Western. PERIOD. VOSS. YES. YES. The on pixel doubleganger. And we're about to get in a Discord call with him, pick his brain, and learn how to become the best jungler we can be. Who the is ready? Yo, what's up, bro? >> What's up, >> bro? I'm gonna be honest. This is probably the coaching session over the course of years that
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Today, the coach is getting coached. And we are not just getting coached by anyone. We are about to get coached by the best jungler to ever play in North America. Arguably the best jungler to ever be Western. PERIOD. VOSS. YES. YES. The on pixel doubleganger. And we're about to get in a Discord call with him, pick his brain, and learn how to become the best jungler we can be. Who the is ready? Yo, what's up, bro? >> What's up, >> bro?
I'm gonna be honest. This is probably the coaching session over the course of years that I've unironically been the most excited for ever. I you not. >> Nice. I mean, we'll see. We'll see what what happens. I mean, honestly, uh I mean, it's going to be like a solo Q coaching, right? Cuz you know, I mean, I saw your your gameplay. I feel like you know well about jungle, especially solo Q. And I think it also fits your play style because you're playing Hekarim and I think with Hekarim you have to have solo play style just just scary right you can't really care about your teammates >> inspired genuine question would you say that I am to solo queue what you are to the professional scene be honest >> I mean what rank are you >> inspired that's not the question I asked bro [laughter] >> I think that one answer >> okay but no So anyways, yeah.
Um, but before we start, this is my question. What do you think the biggest difference is between a jungler that plays in solo Q and succeeds in solo Q versus a jungler that plays pro play and succeeds in pro play? Like what is actually the difference for you? >> The difference? I mean, I don't think the difference is that big. I think to succeed in solo Q, you just kind of need to ignore your team. Uh, I think you Yeah, I think that's the the biggest difference.
I think in solo queue with how shutdowns work right now, you should just focus that you are in good position in the game even though your whole team is losing because it's very likely before the game ends you will still get the shot downs from enemy team and then you will just carry. So as long as you are stronger than enemy jungler the game is going to be fine and I think that's what you need to focus in solo Q and in competitive sometimes you have to have that balance of knowing when it's better to not push the jungle lead in order to not make your team fall behind.
And I think in so you should always just care about yourself. So I think that's just the bigger defense. >> So you're telling me that all the things I've been teaching Jinxy when it comes to things like steal your laner waves, take everything from them, last hit the kills, play for your like clears, all that stuff, like it's all been correct, right? Honestly, >> I think everything except taking the waves is correct. Yeah, I think taking waves might be a bit too much unless you like really need it, but uh everything else I agree.
I think you you just let them farm their minions. That's all they can have. But the rest the rest you should care about yourself. >> Okay. Nice. All right. So, listen. We won't go too far into it. Uh cuz like I kind of want to just like get the coaching, but I was wondering, how do you want to start this? Do you want to start off by explaining me concepts? Do you want to just like jump into a game and you can kind of like run me through your thought process?
Cuz I honestly think more of like a live coaching approach would be a lot better to just explain to me. >> Yeah, I think live coaching would be better. Yeah, I think it's just easier. Okay, cool. All right, so just so you're aware, I'm playing on an account called Nicholas Stewart # Doug. And it's because I'm only playing Jinxy's Champions. That means that in all of these games, I can only play Warwick, Wukong, or Master Yi.
Which one of those three are you most familiar with? >> I mean, Wukong is really broken, so I think that would be really easy if you played Wukong. >> Um, but uh I don't know. I mean, up to you. I don't really care. I'm familiar with all three. >> All right. And also another question I had for you. What rank are you in solo queue right now? >> Right now I'm actually Let me check. I'm masters 900 LP. >> WAIT, SO I'M A HIGHER RANK than you? >> Really? >> Yeah.
Wait, >> I'll send you my OP. GG. >> Wait, bro. Does that mean I'm have a better jungler than you? >> Maybe. I mean, I'm not really playing Dangle though, [laughter] but maybe I just I just might be the better thing. I just lock in. I always Q field. I get the roll and then I also pick a random jungle. Okay. So, genuine question. Genuine question. Is the reason why you don't really take solo Q that serious because you don't think it actually helps you as a pro player? >> I think solo Q, if you play jungler to win, if you play as a jungler to win in solo Q, you build bad habits for competitive play.
And if you do plays that are correct for competitive play, you will most likely get flamed or lose the game in solo Q. So, it's just pointless to waste your time in American server to learn jungle. You can learn how to climb with jungle. And I think jungle is probably the easiest role to climb with. I think it's the easiest role in the game and the most OP role in the game to learn. >> Wait, do you think jungle is the easiest role? >> Tuck.
Yes. Yes, I think it's the easiest. I think I think support is easier, but it's not easy to learn. >> Well, okay. Would you agree with me if I said this? I think support has the lowest skill floor in the game but one of the highest skill ceilings. >> Yes, exactly. I think support maybe not the highest. I think still other roles are highest higher ceiling but there is so many players that are good at the game that play different roles and there is not many players that are good at the game and play support. >> Interesting. >> That's why it just looks like that. >> Okay.
So >> the worst player on the team just goes supports are just >> Yeah. So out of curiosity, what makes you say that jungle's the easiest role in the game? I'm curious. >> Jungle is like a book, you know, you just read it and then you just need to know what to do in in in lane. When you play, you kind of need the mechanics and you need better decision making uh in order to not fall behind and you need to think about also enemy jungler position if you want to play good as a laner.
You need to know where the enemy jungler is. And in solo Q, it's pretty hard. And as a jungler, it's very easy to just focus on where is enemy jungler and what I want to do in the game. That's why I think jungle is just the easiest role. >> Interesting. Okay. So, how do you improve then? That's what I want to know. Like at the level that you're at where you honestly think that solo Q doesn't really help you that much.
Do you improve by queuing Phil? Do you improve by just watching VODs? Like what's your main methodology for improvement at your stage? >> Um I mean you I more treat the game as a team game and I look what decisions that we make as a team like what type of outcomes happen during the stream. Like in solo the only thing you can improve on is just seeing the strength of the champion like in every role seeing how strong the champion is at which point of the game is strong and uh stuff like that.
So it's then easier for you to to know how the team fight is going to play out because you kind of you are familiar with cooldowns, you're familiar with spell damage of every champion in other role. But when it come to team game, I think every decision matters for everyone. Like as a jungler, it really it's really important what your support and mid laner are doing. for example, for a jungler and the same the other way around like if your jungler is for example wasting time somewhere on on one side of the map then the other side of the map cannot really play their game properly.
So yeah, I think for competitive game it's uh it's more of a of decision making of everyone and making sure that everyone is on the same page rather than a jungler making decisions. So >> Okay, gotcha. So I think yeah to answer that question I think usually just watching VODs and seeing from experience after playing the game what we did as a team that was uh either good or bad and stuff like that. >> Okay. And would you say that at the level you're at right now that you still think you have a lot of area to improve in or do you think it's like at this point it's your team just needs to catch up to you? >> I think uh I think I have to improve or I think every player can improve at just PvPing.
I think when the team fight is happening, um, you can still always play better like either your movement to dodge something or anticipate some mobility or just knowing the perfect moment to to go forward during the fight. I think those type of things are stuff that every player in the world can improve. I think uh just team fighting is you can't be perfect in team fights. There's always something you can do slightly better. >> Okay, nice.
All right. So, I think for game one, what we'll do is we'll do Wukong. Uh, just so that we can like kind of learn that. So, for runes, do you like these runes? What are your thoughts on it? >> Runes, I think triple tonic is a good rune in solo queue. I think in competitive you can get abused sometimes by not having cosmic insight because if you don't have cosmic insight, then your flash is 5 minutes cool down, right?
So, if you flash on the dragon fight, the next dragon you don't have flash instantly. So, that timing is pretty important. But in solo Q as I said what matters the most is your own condition and triple tonic is a greedy rune just make will make you stronger with first of all you have more gold on your first clear. So if you do full full clear without buying a potion you can afford peacocks on champions that buy peacocks uh after six camps and recall and then at level six you have a stronger obviously allin and at level nine you have a skill point.
So it's just pure pure greedy rune and uh I think it's better in solo queue than cosmic honestly. >> Okay. Uh, one thing I wanted to say, I feel like a lot of the time if you're jungling and you give up both crabs, you kind of just like lose the game because then >> Yes, you do. >> Yeah. Because then you get on the next dragon because you don't have upgraded smite, right? >> Yeah. >> You can't afford to give two crabs. >> Okay.
So, would you even say that it is a good idea on a champion like Wukong to ever like insta reset after kugs? because I feel like you just have to fight the kugs to the death every time or else the game is just over because then you just lose the game from tempo. >> If you know where the guy is puffing to then you can recall after the after the crab will I mean after the uh golems no problem and you will make it to the other crab or the jungler cannot take one crab and then run straight to the other crab because he has no info on you.
And also you should don't take last stand on Vukong. Take the No. Yeah. Take the one that deals damage when you all in cuz as Vukong you always all in on full HP. This one. Yeah. Cut down. You Yes. Cut down. Cut down. >> Okay. >> And uh >> how come? >> Uh and you could you could greed for tenacity rune. Greed for tenacity rune. Don't take uh health. >> Do you think it's worth it? >> Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Yes. Yes. >> Okay. Got it. >> Nice. >> Wait. >> How come tenacity is good this game? Cuz they only have like one stun. >> You are not going to buy mess. you are playing with no boots and just playing for spike items. And tenacity is just greedy rune that you can get abused because your clear is 3 seconds slower because you don't have health and you are a bit weaker level one but in solo queue no one really abuses it so you should get away with getting tenacity rune and uh then about the pet just take take red pet for more damage so that your burst is higher.
Yeah, take red pet and potion only when you think you can get invaded and I don't think this game there is going to be much action going on. And uh when it comes to clear, you should clear to top only when it's very important, but usually always clearing to bot is better. >> Yeah, cuz so just to give you my idea, I always think that clearing towards bot is better 100% of the time because it puts you on the same side of the map as dragon after your second full clear. >> Exactly.
Yeah. Clearing to top side is only important when uh you really need to help your top laner to make sure that your top laner is not pushed out from from his lane on the craft timing because when jungler is taking the top crab and your top is getting pushed out, it can be bad for his lane sometimes. But in solo you don't care about this. >> Okay, so you just full clip to bot and uh yeah, that's it. Usually I would also like that you ping your mid laner toward your camp and you get info of enemy jungler start because right now it will come to the position where you will finish golems and you can't really afford to recall if you are not sure that the guy's puffing to bot. >> So where do you think I should use my ward then?
Do you think it should be my mid laner wards my buff and I ward his raptors? >> Yes. And also don't ward buff just ward the raptor entrance. I mean, if you play against a champion that can jump the wall, then it's fine to ward the buff, but there is never going to like be a situation where Cartus is invading you through tri level one. >> Out of curiosity though, in solo Q, the reason why I always ward mine instead of this one is because if I I feel like if I put trust in my like player to sit there and ward and then they don't, then I could get from it.
So, do you think that's just like >> Yeah, I mean that's why just playing jungle in solo queue is just very tilting. Like you should be the one warding. Use the potion instantly. fast, bro. Okay, I did it. >> Like, it's really important because if you clear, if you recall after golems, you get barely the gold. Like, okay, >> you need to click it instantly when you get level three. >> But, uh, it is important to know where the enemy jungler is puffing.
So, if your team is not getting you any information, then you need to ward raptors yourself cuz otherwise your game plan is just very scuffed, right? >> Also, here I hold on to my W, right? And then I W. >> No, no, use it, use it, use it. No, no, no. Use it. Keep hitting it and keep guiding it. And in this situation, I would smite it and recall. And that's why it just can be bad decision to recall if you are sure that he's puffing to top.
But just recall and flip it. >> Okay. So, are you saying that we should recall because we have no prior ballot lane? >> Flip it. Flip it. I mean recall. Yes. Because right now you are assuming that cartus clear to bot. Okay. Cartus clear to bot. Right now you buy items to fage and pink ward and you run top side. And you see how you don't have the elixir go yet because you cleared a bit too slow. I mean you clear slow as Vukon. you can clear like slightly faster and then you'll have uh the elixir gold here.
And when you play champion with pickax, it's pretty important because you can get pickax off of this clear. >> Yeah. Okay. So, the thing I want to say, you told me to recall because enemy bot lane had prow, right? So, there's no way for me to contest the side anyways. >> Yeah. And now you get the crab and now you have a timing to hit the vision plant around the raptors. >> Should I do that or should I gank top? >> You can gank top as well.
If top is in the top looks like he's just straight up in Cartus in bot lane. I >> think you just have a free kill here. He has no SS so can just play it to get a kill. Oh my god. [laughter] >> It's okay. >> Don't hit the wave though. Wait. Oh wait. Don't make sure you don't die. Don't hit the wave. Don't Bro, don't hit the wave. >> No, but the the thing is like anyways, no matter what it's like you know? like it was already if you if you didn't hit it at all it wouldn't be that bad.
I'm pretty sure there was still a chances that the wave would be fine but once you hit it once it was over. Yeah. I mean then it's fine to take the cannon. And also you shouldn't Oh, I didn't tell you that when you don't take cosmic don't waste your smite on the second clear because uh you are not having cosmic. So right now you will have no smite forever. >> Oh okay. Okay. Okay. So like on my second full clear I never use smite unless I have cosmic >> inside.
Yes. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Even with cosmic it's better to not use it if you don't have to. Yeah, cuz then it's down for the dragon, right? Like 20 seconds. >> Did Cartus take both his top counts? He did. He's just playing a broken champion, so he's making it to your raptors. But maybe Leona will defend it. Okay, he got scared. That's nice. And now you will recall after raptors instantly buy items and then do 530 and golems. >> Okay.
Should I get Shin >> insta recall here? Yes, you should get Shin. Wait, do you have enough money for Do you have enough money for Fage and double long sword? I think that's better. >> Okay. Oh, for sake. >> Oh Now I just go for no no recall because you want to do the 530 on the golems anyway and then make it to top on spawn. Okay. >> Sometimes some games if you play against a really good jungler, he might invade your golems, but it would never happen in >> So how come I don't just do kugs there and then reset and then just play on this and then maybe look for a gang top or mid. >> I think this is just better.
You already have enough gold and uh you're just faster on the map because right now you'll be able to also run through me. You don't have to recall. So you apply some pressure on the map. >> Okay. >> Like if you would go to golems then you are basing and they are going through the top side. >> I'm swinging this to go bot gank. >> Okay. But I think there's nothing. No, you go top crap. You don't care about your team. I thought you know that. >> Oh, true.
Ah, dude. This is too free though. Now >> you are okay. I mean, you can cry. It's up to you. I would always go top crap and just uh go the race up. But seems like they're completely running it. So you get one kill at least. Oh, you get nothing. [music] And and that's what I would not go bot. Okay. Still, if you can get out and go to top car, it's still going to be fine. >> You're hitting six in one minion. But >> yeah, I know. >> Okay, you're trying to top cap.
I think you can't afford to base. No. What is Yaso HP? Can he one B2 you guys? Cuz then you have to base. He can't really one B2 you. I think you can maybe rush the crap. But the problem is you use smite on golems. So now you don't have smite on top side. I mean, you need to think about it more when you play with no cosmic. Like, you really can't waste your FL. I mean, waste your smite. >> I mean, with potion, I'm pretty sure you kill him here.
Does he have exhaust or not? >> Uh, yeah, but it might >> have exhaust so scuffed. I mean, you have to in him. He has exhaust and certain >> I should just listen to you. I have cancer. Okay. I'm never going to >> because right now he's going to Right now, he's going to take crab and take your blue. So, you're really And Okay, I'm I'm going to listen to you every single time. >> Go to Gromp anyway. Go to Gromp and maybe you can get the smite off on Gromp >> cuz he's going to try to take your Gromp too.
Probably. >> Let's see. Maybe you can make it. >> Maybe he didn't take it. >> Surely he took blue. He didn't take blue. Okay, nice. But surely he took the crab. So >> yeah. Yeah. I'm not going to check it. So now I should just f clear towards drag, right? >> Yeah. I mean the cartus if he didn't invade this then it means he will probably invade your raptors and uh cuz he should be done with his scams in top side by now [music] like his champion is really OP. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.
He done his raptors already. I don't even know if the play here I mean it's just so scuffed after that gank that right now your raptors could be gone and your red could be getting invaded and your cast is getting vision in top side instead of bot side. So and they did he didn't take the crab. I think just flee that your raptors are gone. Go to the top crab and take grabs. >> Okay. Gotcha. >> Cuz your team cannot defend your raptors.
It's not possible if if anyone it was cast in primer to get vision around on both side. >> Yep. >> What elo is this game? Cuz also important when you play to know what elo you're playing in. >> That's like high masters I think. >> Okay. It's pretty low. Okay. Rush grabs and I think K didn't maybe take your raptor. Seems like he's just doing dragon. >> Okay. So we just got for free then. >> Yeah. Yeah. Just rush it and then I mean probably you just recall.
I think your raptors are gone no matter what. Like surely all afforded grabs and Cart [music] is just going to click your raptors. I don't know if your team can defend your red buff. That will be ideal cuz he didn't take it earlier. Smite, smite, smite and trickle shin. And you can maybe buy something else. The dagger. Next objective will be a crab that will spawn. You don't know where it's going to spawn yet because the top crab needs to disappear. >> Yeah, >> but just farm your camps and then try to get triforce for the crab timing. >> Okay, gotcha. >> Should be on his raptors on spawn.
I think this jump can make it there easily. >> What do you think about bidding as wolves? >> Uh I mean it could be a play but you have cast in mid so it is pretty risky and if you don't get a kill there is pretty bad. I would not do it. >> Okay. >> If anything maybe you can get a midwave like don't recall. Don't recall. Go to your gro. Oh you have item actually. Wait. You're right. But I didn't have item. >> Yeah I got you.
I got you. >> Okay. The bot crap is going to be spawning. So rush your top camps and run to bot crab. >> Okay. Oh man. I'm not excited to play versus uh Feder Olaf at this comp. >> Yeah, I mean your comp is pretty bad. And also Kart is probably one of the best champs in solo against Wukong because he's AP and he clears very fast. >> Yeah, >> like Wukong doesn't like to face this type of junglers. >> Yeah, it's like this and Zyra. >> I think Lilia is quite easy this season cuz she's really weak, but she also used to be good. >> Mhm. >> Okay, I'm pretty sure he's going to spawn soon, but I don't we don't have exact timing because no one checked it. >> Maybe I just like cover bot instead.
No, no. Just walk here. Walk here. And uh yeah, I mean this this game s your mid laner is completely useless. But maybe here yaso will in show on his screen. Check crap. Crap first. Don't care about anything here. It's set up. Okay. I mean the guy's on golems probably and then you clear your camps. Okay. Make sure to get it. Could be a decent fight here. Puppy's coming, but you can one shot someone before he gets in range.
Oh, you need to before doubling auto Q. >> I I have cancer. Okay, so >> always before Wing there, then W auto Q and then next Q. >> How come you always R before Wing? >> Because there you can easily get so much more damage cuz you will get the clone with ult on top of the guy. your second Q then your ult is gonna I mean your clone is gonna start and then you get another queue and the guy is one shot there. >> Okay. Gotcha. >> Overall on Wukong you don't want to use too early but you want to use ult especially when you get few conqueror stacks.
Go to golems. Where you going? Golems. Golems >> Yeah. And also you bought cloth armor. That's I told you you're going to be not buying boots. That's why you tookity rune. >> Do you think uh tenacity or not tenacity but dans is bad second item? That's what I was thinking. >> I think I think black cleaver got really big buffs. I think the item is >> out of curiosity. Have you ever tried hard steel Wukong? >> No, I didn't.
It doesn't sound good. >> You don't think so? >> Yeah. If you want to buy hard seal, just play Scarnner or something else. >> Yeah. Just don't pick Vukong then cuz Vukong is supposed to win a team fight on his drive for spike and you just lost a team fight. So >> yeah, >> that's pretty bad. Go to top side. Don't go his bot side. I mean that team fight that you had there was was opportunity to win the game. But that's where mechanics come in.
You know when I told you about the PvPing part and everyone can improve on that. Yeah. Because before that everything was very scripted and that was the first situation where you can actually use an individual skill to get the good advantage over the opponent. >> Yeah. And it's like that was the one where I everything up. >> Yeah. Exactly. You will clear wolves I think with smite because your next smite is going to come back up and then you will recall and run to both side with smite.
Smite instantly to pull them and then insta recall. Insta recall. Now maybe Cartus will get the crab, but you can maybe team fight for for the thing after. I think just buy ruby and long sword and pink. And pink word is not for vision. Pink word is the thing you use in team fights. Okay, you don't waste pink word to get vision somewhere. You always want to have one pink ward in your inventory and then click it during the team fight to get advantage somehow during the fight.
Like you can put a pink ward in the bush. You can put a pink word anywhere over the wall when someone is flashing. You just need to have pink ward in your inventory. Preferably always. >> Gotcha. Okay, >> he just took the crab. Ola flashing in. I think you have to kill him. Nice. You're listening to him. >> Their bot is coming from base and Carter just did the crap. So, it's not the timing to fight him too much. Maybe you can.
I don't think you can even steal this. His top side comes are spawning by now, but I don't think it's the best play to go there. >> So, what do you think we should do though? >> I think try to get Yaso when he goes back to mid through this. Like he might click to mid here. I think right now if you don't show Poppy's going to Yeah, Poppy's going to go both cards. He's going to recall and there's a chance you can gank as well here.
I think it's it's good though. You kill him. >> Good. >> Nice. And you go to golems and farm. Cart is on his golems right now and you can't really invade him unless his raptors already spawn. Okay, it didn't even spawn yet. All right. Not bad, bro. Not bad. We're in a good spot. >> Yeah. Fage and uh Rubic crystal >> or Lucian's fed now. >> Yeah. Golem. Golem. Golems, bro. >> Oh, it. I'm into that. Yeah. >> Do you think it's more worth to do golems first or red first there? >> Yeah, it's better to do golems. >> How come? >> Um it's it's just better like makes no sense to run to the middle camp and then run down.
Just start. >> Oh, true. Yeah, cuz I guess at this point I'm so like obsessed with the idea like in some situations in some situation you could leave the red buff up even here and just start golems then take raptors because your wolves and gromp were already spawning and then you can just come back to your red and fight the boot trap. So that's why going red I mean doing red on this clear would be fine in some situations but if you see your top already spawning you probably should just skip the red.
Okay, >> it's kind of in he flashed in in bot lane Olaf. So he doesn't have flash here. I don't know if it's even killable, but you should try. I think it is. It is for sure. Go go go. >> Nice. >> Yeah, you can push wave cuz now it's Yes. Yes. Now it's your time to start taking side waves. >> Okay. >> And Cart is bot side case killing your guy. But nothing matters. Just keep pushing. Oh, the murderous even agrees. [laughter] Nice guy. >> I'm going to go Held off her. >> Yeah, just clear this wave.
Don't take the tower, by the way. Don't Don't take it. Don't take it. Don't take it. Hit the wave. Wave is more important here. Yeah. >> Really >> kill the wave and then Yes. Yes. Yes. Leave the tower alive. And just recall, you already have second ite would be good if you need gold, but you don't need more gold here. And look at the wave that is going to create here. If the tower doesn't die, like it's going to bounce back to you.
Hopefully, it doesn't die though. If it dies, then it was better to last hit it. But I think it should. >> Wait, I I'm actually so confused. Why did we leave the turret up? >> Because if it doesn't die, it's good for you. Look, the guy lost the full cannon wave and the tower. Ah, the last hit. Okay, that was unlucky. But you know the tower doesn't give much gold. It's not first tower. If it's first tower, it's good to take it.
But if it's not first tower, usually it's way better to leave it on one HP and then just bounce the wave. >> Gotcha. >> But uh it was barely calculated. Like two caster minions killed it. So unlucky. But good team fight. Yeah, you that's why you also base. You want to be here fast for the team fight. Okay. You did survive. Olaf Olaf. Careful. >> I know. >> You can kite him and go to Herold, I think. >> Yeah, that's what I want to do.
That's what I want to do. >> Yeah. Usually better to leave tier ones up than take them. Like they don't really give gold unless it's the first tower and they make it so that enemy lose a lot of waves inside lane. >> Interesting. Okay. So if if I Okay. Wow. No, that's actually like one of the first times where you said something and I'm genuinely like shocked, but it's like it makes sense, but it's just like shocking.
You know what I mean? >> Yeah. I mean it it does sound a little bit weird, but uh when you think about it, it's pretty obvious that it's not worth it. >> Yeah. Like it's better, it's really important to get the plates, but it's better to not kill the tower because when the wave comes there, someone from enemy team needs to be in that spot to answer it. Otherwise, it's creating a slow push to you. So, >> yeah, >> it's just very good.
So, it's up and if someone stays under the tower also, you can just dive in because the tower is really low. >> Yeah, >> just keep clearing and you have enough time to clear because the top is in 50 seconds and dragon is also in 50. So, you have time. The next objective is still not here. I feel like I just go raptors, reset that and play on dragon, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> What would you say I go third item? >> I mean, in competitive I would buy GA, but solo carrier I think dev dance is probably the best item.
But in competitive here, I would have BF and BF is like a very nice buy, but I think just go Dev Dance cuz Dev dance is a better item once you complete it, but the components are not that good. >> Gotcha. >> And also G is just good for for dragon fights in competitive game. >> Yeah. Because you have it up every like five minutes before the fights. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you kill him for sure. Pretty good. You even saved the route.
Good decision here. >> Yeah, thank you. >> Okay, what do you think about using this bomb? >> See, the fight the fight is happening, bro. Like, you could have heralded before you hit the dragon to get the herold going if it's needed. But looks pretty good. Uh, don't waste the herald. The herald is not worth to take towers. Just careful of the cactus passive. Wait, >> one person should go bottom. >> Hold on, hold on, hold on one second.
What do you mean held to take towers? >> You shouldn't use Herold right now to take a tower. It's just useless. Like, you will use Herold for the next team fight. Like, right before you eat into someone, you will just spawn Herold and then the enemies are in this situation where they can't commit to you because you will just click Herald. Hey, you could have taken Botwick, bro. >> Oh, yeah. No, it's cuz I want to get to the crab on time. >> Okay.
Yeah. I mean, that's that's also fine. That's also fine decision. That makes sense if you were thinking about the crab. Yeah, you're saying that if you have the option between using held for turrets or for a team fight, it's always better to use it for the team fight. >> It's always better for team fight. Always like always. You should never use her for tower in solo qu especially. Never. >> Uh I I don't know if this is anything but maybe.
I guess you guys are just owning. >> Oh no, >> it's fine. You can die. If you will ever have opportunity in this type of situation to spawn rift, it's good. But you will not have it because you walk into enemy team. Oh And you're maxing E second. I also didn't see that. >> I'm supposed to go W. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Okay. Now, if you will feel in danger, just spawn rift. If you think they're coming to you and you can't escape, take as well. >> Take him. >> What do you think about using?
Would you still say no? >> No. No. No. You just go to clear recall and go to clear. Yeah. Or you could just take the gate. No. >> Just take the gate. Take the gate. Take the gate. Oh, wait a second. I'm pissed. Oh, wait. We just bar. >> No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Take the gate and do Oh, you hit the gate and now you might be a bit Spawn rift if you need to. Oh, you smited him. >> Bro, I told you rift is your way. I know.
I have cancer. I have cancer. I know. >> You didn't click smite and spawn rift. The guy waste exhaust and you get into the rift and you're out. >> Yeah, exactly. I have cancer. It's fine. I mean, you should have just taken the gate out and farm your camps and not >> your It's cuz I thought that there would be a chance that I could actually help my team or get like a kill, you know? >> I know. I know. >> But it's the same on both side, >> bro.
It's Yeah, exactly. It's the same thing you told me before, like literally never do anything for them. >> Yes. Yes. And that's why solo Q builds bad habits because it's not a good habit to have to not care about your team, but it's just the best way to play in solo. >> Yeah, you're right. >> Can they even do this now? I mean, Cartus does damage to it, but Olaf can tank it easily. I mean, it could be pretty bad if you guys just snatched to nothing, but it's not end of the world. >> Okay, we're good. >> Lea just uh went to check.
Well, your rift is going to click forward. Okay. I think take the crab and you'll get vision then. And remember about the rift if you need to get into it. You're going to go away, >> bro. Where the is the Herald? I mean, you also need to learn it's going to go away if you like at the beginning when you are standing in the bush, you knew the rift is going to disappear soon. So, if you could walk forward a little bit to spawn it more into the river, you will have more time to game play there. >> Or or I even start off the fight and then it spawns midfight. >> Yeah.
Or do that. Yeah, but I think it already spawned automatically when it spawned. I don't I mean, if if you clicked it, I'm pretty sure there was like one second left on it to spawn automatically anyway. So there you shouldn't have kept standing in the line bush trying to like camp or something. Just walk forward so that the rift will come in the middle of river and that you'll have enough time to just get the crab, start the fight and then take the rift. >> Okay, gotcha. >> I mean playing around rift is a bit it's a bit tricky but it's really OP.
If you learn how to use rift well it will yeah it will change so many games for you. Uh I don't know about that item. I think buy item one item and uh yeah I think it's fine. can >> cuz at this point you can consider start buying boots when they are good against enemy team and right now armor boots are pretty good and just buying one MR item. >> Uh I don't know which it is good on book I would say maybe more in this game is the best. >> Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. >> Look at the it could be a good play here if Oh, he didn't face check him.
That's uh bit annoying here cuz you made a decision to come here. But I think some of them will be me. It's a good just kill them. Nice. >> You guys are 4v5 now, so every fight should be good. >> Very good. >> Yeah, the dragon is free. Make sure Olaf doesn't have a great angle on you. Just keep your W. Like you can play with him, but you need to Yeah. Okay. Your team already played with him. Go, go, go, go, go, go, go. me. >> Okay, flash. >> Oh, nice. >> Got him.
Wait, do you have PSD? Straight from Korea. [laughter] >> Yeah, there's no way that's a real pays, bro. >> You don't think so? >> Let's see if it actually is. Are you ready? >> Yeah, I'm ready. Okay, buy armor boots here. >> They will give you the the biggest spike on this fight. Next fight. >> Okay, bad news, bro. Korea's not winning worlds. Pa has a 53 win rate with 600 games in NA solo Q. >> Not a good look for Korea.
All right, let's look. >> Okay, here is good if you get level 16 before the next team fight. So, you probably shouldn't opt into a team fight yet. Go farm [music] your camp. >> Okay. Do you think it's a bad idea to sit there and like wait in bushes like this kind of like block off? >> It's not the worst, but they have Poppy. So, it's not like you are killing anyone that insta face tricks you. >> Okay, gotcha. >> And you also want to have level 16 for the fight.
And if uh if you don't get the raptors that were just spawning there, then you waste so much time. >> Okay. Right now, your objective should be to force a team fight under Gromp when it spawns. >> What would you think about me like sidelining top there? >> No, no, no. Go, go, go Raptor and then look for Yasawa that is lost in the jungle in both side cuz he's like lurking the river/ jungle right now, I'm pretty sure. And then you just if you find him, you kill him.
Just go towards Yeah, this way. And just look for someone that is lost. >> What about us? >> You can flank them. Yeah. Yeah. Flank them a bit. Yeah, looks good. Just take it slow cuz Kart's passive is going to run out and then maybe it's going to be something. But I think all of you can't beat. You need to kite him probably. Just pull the gromp. He can't really kill you. >> Pull the gromp. >> Okay. I mean, you can run.
It's too late. >> Yeah. >> Just take the golems now and recall >> golems. Yeah. Can you kill him? He's shouldn't die. >> Yeah. I mean, Leona has I I would say if Yasu is going to click him, then then you can kill him. I guess I suppose Yasu will want it to stay there. Yeah, well done. That was a a good catch. >> Thank you. >> I didn't expect Yasawa to be trying to one be on the other. And I think here you guys could consider starting now.
Olaf is bought with no TP. >> Agreed. >> Maybe he has TP, but should be free. >> Do you think it's worth me Wing over this wall to check? >> No, no, no, no, no, no. Someone else on your team should do it. I maybe So, you should, but like should be there. I don't know. Why is Leona farming midwave? Like, [laughter] >> okay, your team realized they should do it and they did. >> All right, now I res. >> Yeah. >> Ah, Hey, do you ever think it's worth me not recalling for the >> No, no, you should recall.
You should recall like just recall. You recall again if you need this item. >> Okay. >> If you can right now fight Olaf when they're dead on the map because Olaf is overaying. It's pretty good. Cartus is in the area. You could one the cart if he gives you angle instead of going all off. But just play slow and see cuz Olaf is for sure dead when Lucian comes here. >> Wow. >> Yeah. Now you can base for an item. >> Out of curiosity, do you ever get toxic when you play solo queue? >> I don't know if I can answer that question.
[laughter] >> Yeah, don't mind. >> Go top. Go top. Go top and kill. Go top and kill. >> Your team should go mid and you are side laning top trying to kill. >> Don't Don't think because then your team will come here and they are not supposed to come here. We are supposed to kill him solo. >> Okay. >> I don't know why you keep doubling out of the bush. Like you want to surprise enemies instead of just just just killing them.
You bro just >> Okay. >> Oh, inspire. >> Oh my god. >> Inspired. >> Why did you want Why did you want to surprise him? Like you can just walk out of the bush and kill. >> I know. I know. I'm sorry. >> Why did I do that, bro? >> I I don't know. >> It It's like Yeah, you're right. It's like I'm trying to sit there and like stealth in, but why am I trying to stealth in? >> Yeah, I I don't know. Like the guy is dead. It's not like he sees you will change anything.
And your W is a lot of damage. You need to use Vong W as a damage tool. Like if you read this ability, you should also max it second because then it it deals more damage. Look, this guy is actually blinding. He's hard carrying. >> Like it deals a lot of damage >> and you should max it second because EMAC is fine, but W will create a lot of situations where it actually makes a difference. He doesn't really make a difference. >> Well, I mean, the Lucian is uh pretty career in this game. >> No, he is.
They're winning worlds this year. >> Okay, just take gate and take their full camp and maybe you guys can end. Actually, they're all dying. >> Yeah, I think you guys can end. Cassadine is just not pushing. Lucian is too low. I think you can't end. No. Or can you? Actually, >> I would I would say we can. >> We are pranked T1. Oh, okay. Nice. I mean, you'll have way more impact on this game if you actually ignore the bot play there and just actually straight up went to bot crap. >> I think that was actually like one of the like by far one of if not the biggest fuckups cuz like I I I was just out of control the entire early game because of it. >> Yeah.
And obviously your matchup is not great because he just has way higher tempo than you in the game. So if you make mistake like that, it's just very costly. But he didn't punish you well enough there cuz he's blue. So, out of curiosity, after sitting there and watching like that game, right, and getting to know me like with that one game, what would you say my biggest or one one of my biggest issues is like just in terms of like how I path, how like >> the way the way you were controlling Wukong was really bad.
I think the way you were pathing and just like your game knowledge and game instinct was good, but I think uh just individual Wukong performance was not the best. I think so many PVP situations you could have played way better. Like the way you were using your W was really bad. I think the the first situation in river just in your try for spike if you knew Vukong better and played Vukong better you would get the free kill there and the game would be pretty much over cuz you would be really ahead. >> So you think Aurelia is just like a mechanics thing >> in that sense it was mechanics thing.
Yeah because I think everything uh like gameplay wise decision making wise in the jungle is very easy. That's why I also say the jungle is just an easy ro. >> I'm currently last pick jungle. >> Do you think it's more worth it for me to lock in Wukong or like what here? What would you do? >> Um, I mean, if you are surely going to play Wukong, no matter what, I would just take him. >> Let's just swap and just take Wukong. >> But what if I get counter pick though? >> But if you are good enough, you would be fine.
Like counter pick in the jungle. There's nothing. Okay, Wukong is very OP that the only counters to him are like Cartus. But even Cartus, if you play perfectly as Wukong, he doesn't counter you. The only time it counters you if you make mistake like you did in bot lane and then he gets tempo over you, then yes, he will counter you because he can get ahead of you. But uh Wukong is just strong level one. So you can't really get invaded and uh strong level three, strong level six.
Like there is no point where Wukong is weak. So it's hard to counter pick him. >> Okay. So you're saying that in solo Q I should give teammates counterpick. But it's like let's say I want to play a champion like Master Yi, right? Or Warwick or like that. I feel like locking that in earlier is like a death sentence. No. >> Yeah. But these champions have so many counterpicks that you will get counterpicked by whatever they pick most of the time.
Mastery just for example losing every fight anyway. So what's well how does it matter you're counterpicked or not? Overall playing mastery is like you are meant to most of the games fall behind early game and then try to come back to the game by catching shutdowns. That's why you should never affect playing champion like that. >> Yeah >> because you are meant to lose early game and if you are winning early game then you are in prime position to carry. >> Okay.
So would you still say I go tenacity in a game like this where they have literally no CC? >> No. No. Hero takes K health definitely. >> Okay. when they have literally zero CC then no >> also I have one last bagel bite and then I'm ready to lock in >> bagel no bagel >> Janna Sona that's the most any matchup in the boot lane >> also bro are you related to on pixel or no >> no I'm not actually [laughter] pretty random here but I am actually not >> so you said first things first I need to ward enemy >> um yes but in this side of the map usually your guy can ward but can word it yourself just to make sure that there is a word just go there and word >> what do you go through here sure or through share >> uh I think for me it doesn't matter just go through me I think and uh just be ASAP because if you show like that then okay I mean this is okay it's it worked fine because your Twitch is just just baiting but uh >> usually you want to go through through through the river and [clears throat] it's very unlikely any bot is going to stand there like covering that entrance >> okay gotcha >> I Your HP doesn't matter as long as you don't get invaded.
But some people could punish you losing health early by just level one invading you because they see you don't have potions and it's like it's pretty good to just walk level one. But is not really a champion that can do that. >> Okay, so since I was starting raptors, what does >> Yeah. >> What does that tell you? [clears throat] >> That tells me that he might level three gang bot and just look look at Okay, it's really important to look at the end of the camp like where he's skyping it because then you can get some extra information. >> Yeah.
And also the war that you put kind of makes him want to invade your blue and cheese you because you didn't ward the the river, right? Like you didn't ward the entrance that you will see if he actually enter. >> Ah, true, true, true. So you're saying that if I'm ever going to ward there, then it's better for me to ward for example like here, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Gotcha. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. >> Because the worst thing you want to do is get in solo queue is getting cheesed by losing your camps early because then you rely on it on the team a lot to come back to the game. >> Yes.
Well, that's the reason why I would always sit there and ward my own buff because I'm like, "Oh, fuck." >> Yeah. Yeah. But you can you can do it in a way where you get information of enemy jungler and and uh and see where they and and get like cover from the invade. Especially against champion like Cartus last game you had. But against champions that can jump the walls, then sometimes it's greedy to get information where they start.
Then it's better to just ward the buff. >> Okay. Gotcha. >> Do the blue blue. You should not do Gromp first because you do the second Gro at 5:30 anyway. And if you do gromp, you clear faster. I mean, if you do blue, you clear faster like you do faster blue gromp than grump blue. >> Oh, okay. >> To get to river. >> But does it actually I there's like a 10-second delay. No. >> Uh, no. I mean, I don't know what you mean by 10 second delay. >> Like after I clear my >> And also you you can you can smite the gromp and then run to the crab because you know Zo started in both camps.
If you clear the wolves, the second wolf, usually it's the timing where you recall. So you don't care the GR spawning slightly slower. You care about taking this crap quite fast and uh yeah and I guess you just recall. >> What about invading his raptors? What do you think about that? >> Uh I think it shouldn't work. Shouldn't work. Especially when you play with no cosmic like you're playing scaling runes. >> Okay. >> Oh L is canceling a recall being annoying.
Just recall again. Oh my god. I you can't kill him. He's just wasting your time. >> Same thing as last game. Fage. >> Yes. Invading raptors is like you need to think of it as something extra. If you invade it, you get a big lead, but it's not necessary to do stuff like that. You still win the game if like for example, Zen is really bad. So, you could take his raptors, but in a normal game, you don't need to do it in order to win unless it's like really free.
I would just farm. I wouldn't go there. It was his own choice to go forward. I think he could have easily played differently Jax and Zar should never have opportunity to get a three kill in top lane. >> So in this situation, would you say Jax get cancer for giving jungle a kill? >> Yes. Yes. [laughter] >> I mean not maybe C, but just really bad play by him. >> Yeah. >> When he sees the jungler on the ward and he just decides to give him a kill. >> Yeah.
No, exactly. It's just >> that's just actively griffing. That's like you would walk towards this log that was canceling your recall and you let him kill you. >> Yeah. Cuz like yes, you trade the Hog skill, but then it's like it up my game now. >> Yeah. Yeah. And it doesn't even make his game much better in top lane because he already had control and he had a counter pick. >> Yep. >> Okay. You want to be cool here because you want to do 530 on on um on GR.
Why Why is Zo still not Okay, Zo is there. Can you check him? >> What about doing dragon instantly here? >> Uh it could be a play, but I don't really like it. >> Why? because it just slow downs your game. And if someone comes there, it can be pretty annoying. Like for example, your K is basing right now and if you started it and they had B on it, you would use a lot of time for that and lock would just come stop you.
Your bot lane might get traded right like that right now and then enemy support can stop you. There's a lot of situations that can go wrong and you don't want to rely on your team because that's something you need to communicate with your team. Make sure you kill the GR at 5:30 and you shouldn't have smided again. >> Oh, true. >> You should have kept two smites. >> Oh, that's what you're saying. Oh, I get it now. The 530 things.
So, I get the upgraded smite. Okay. >> Yeah, now I get it. >> And now, if you have two smites, you are supposed to start dragon, but you made a mistake. So, you can't I mean, >> I mean, I can still do it. I can still do it. >> Yeah, but it will be so much faster. The dragon dies in 15 seconds if you have two smites. You click one smite and the second smite executes it because it comes back up when the drake is exactly 1,000 health. >> Interesting, bro. interesting.
You're lowkey smart. >> Yeah, is coming. Can you click tap? He has no smite, right? What is >> No, he does. He does. >> Oh, he has smite as well. >> So, >> I'm pretty sure he didn't take the top crab yet, right? >> Uh, no. No, he did. He doesn't. >> He didn't. He didn't. >> He has 44. You'll have 48 if he took the crab. >> There could be an angle, especially if Zog gets baited by this fight and doesn't go to the crab.
Yes. Then you kill everyone. out of Q and then we'll soon don't don't chase. Can you get the crab? Oh, actually TF is make sure you get the crab. Okay, that's most important. The Janna doesn't matter. >> Yeah. >> W to the other side of the crab so you pull it to raptors. I need to be pulling the crab to the good side. >> Yeah. And then do I reset after >> much time? No, you don't reset. You farm. We don't have W now.
Go to rap. Uh I mean you could start your golems. It's fine too. But overall, you wanted this crap to go to to raptors area and just start with raptors. >> But why start with raptors if my bot's coming out? >> Because it's just closer. You would clear it faster. And uh I think you would recall then after golems and go botsside with all items and your going back up. You should not care about getting your bot side right on spawner.
Like you start raptors, you do red golems, then you recall, and then you spend all your gold and you clear your bot camps while your ult is going back up and then you fight. >> Bro, I'm going to be honest. You're breaking my brain. So you're saying that it's like I don't play for the timings. I l just play for like what I can do to get as strong as possible on every reset. >> Yes. Yes. >> Interesting. >> Okay. Make sure you pull the cam before you clear the pink ward.
Was this all showing both? Cuz uh then we could consider doing grabs in this situation, but you don't do it. You go clear clear camps. Clear camps. >> Oh yeah, for for sure. >> It's fine. Just clear camps for for the thing. In competitive game, I would probably do grabs there because we saw Zinszo and it's like a timing where your team if it's communicated, Zo cannot really invade your camps easily and you can get two grabs for free.
But it's lucky you don't have that. So you just farm. >> Yeah, I know. So here >> take take Gromp. Yeah, take Gromp. Don't take blue now and then just recall because you already have item. You can even smite this to clear it faster when when it's about to die cuz Zin could come here. Okay, you smite it now. But hopefully Zin is not here. You have item of this, right? Just recall. >> Yep. Now you have no information on the map.
Zeninszo could be hitting grabs. Could not be. You don't really know. But you should still want to go top side cuz there is a crab that you want to fight and you want to kill Zenzo now and end the game before he gets an item. >> Would you pop top or straight grabs out of base? >> Uh I think I would go base from base to grabs. I wouldn't go for top, but you can go for top too. It doesn't really matter. >> The grubs are gone.
Does that change your idea? >> Yeah. No, you go to Gromp and just fight him because he probably skipped his blue and Gromp to do grabs if he did them now. And that way I would go for mid cuz it's less likely it's worth it. But you don't care. You just keep clicking there and he has no flash. So if you play it well, you can always kill him, but you don't have to. You can see the situation. If it's not killable, then you don't kill him.
He might be on the Gromp right now. And you kill him. Is there your TF rotated well, too? Just keep fighting. >> Wow. >> And then take the crap. I mean, you could take the wolves, too. It's It's fine to take wolves. >> Yeah, bro. Holy Okay. Yo, I got a lock in on learning jungle, bro. Like you're like, [laughter] "What the fuck?" I >> cra and you clear from golems to bolt and you fight dragon with your comes back up and then you end the game there. >> Oh my god.
Wait, wait. Inspired. Look at this the kill score. >> 67. [laughter] >> I I like that, too. >> Yeah, dude. I I have this like young like three-year-old nephew. And every time I would see him like at Christmas parties, I would just tell him 67 67 67 and I would just like make him go crazy. >> He's always on raptor so he's going to clear his golem. Does he have item already in? >> He has items. So now you don't want to fight him before you get the reset off.
And it's up to you if you recall after this or you clear the camps and recall. I would probably recall right now >> because I think you have high enough if you recall. Yes, because right now you spend your gold, you probably buy double ruby or boots, but I think double ruby is better this game. >> Okay, >> because you just don't want to get bursted by lock and you already have enough damage and pick. Okay, it's fine. >> Oh, wait.
I walked back. I didn't even get it. >> Okay, and you waste their W and you're maxing his second. Your W is not going to come back up here. Okay, it's fine. Don't W out of the base if you go to wolves cuz you need it here. And uh you always want the pink ward as I said just to have it for the team fight. Clear camps. Clear camps. Don't do dragon wolves. Wolves. Okay. Oh, >> because he can't do the dragon. If he hits the dragon, you're going to stop your hitting your camps and you're going to kill him.
Like, you have to take wolves there. You just based so that in case he starts it, you can just stop your camp and kill him. >> You don't think it You don't think it's better to just get the dragon to get it off? >> Why? >> No, you just because you want to clear this camps as you don't want to just go to the dragon there. You're playing solo. You need to get really strong. The game still is not over. Okay. >> Use your potion as well for point skill point.
That's good. You didn't insta ult her. You don't want to waste your ult. That was good because if she if you waste your root, then you should do the dragon. What are you waiting for? >> The golems are dead. You only go there if you know the golems are up. Like you getting a Jana out is already big help for bot lane. They should win. But your Twitch is just uh just diving them when the wave is under his tower. >> Oh, >> and now we lose this. >> Okay, you win the smite.
He doesn't have smite up, bro. Calm down. Uh I think W and flash out if you have to guess play for the kill, but uh you don't really want to die. Like if if you survive there with flash, it's still fine. But if you just die, it's not good. And that's why you also don't chase them in bot lane when Jana you out. You just click to dragon. You can pull the dragon and you have a smile advantage. There is no opportunity for them to kill you.
No way you die there ever. >> Gotcha. Now you could buy pickax here. Can you go back? How much gold did you have? Uh, can you buy this? Yeah, cuz pickax is just harder to buy on later maybe. So, it's good to get it. >> Okay, go start golems. And you did throw your lead a bit. >> Out of curiosity, what do you think about just invading as Grompure? >> Uh, you don't have W. If you didn't make a mistake in Bside, that would be the next play if he contested you on dragon.
But usually, you should clear the top camps when you are doing dragon because you need to remember like all these plays, they don't always have to be the most optimal in solo Q. You just have to be >> thinking about not like your team is not going to help you so you need to play for yourself. >> Yeah. >> For example, what this Twitch did was just like he should get reported for that. Like why is he diving bot tower when his wave is under his tower and you are doing the dragon? >> Yeah, >> that just makes no sense and that's going to happen every single game.
Okay. Zen was showing on bot side, right? So >> he was Yeah, he was showing on bot side. In that case, we could have tried to get his G, but it's fine. You just clear these camps and then on the next wave when Twitch comes back bot, you guys have opportunity to dive bot with your wood coming back up. Okay, >> maybe you can try to kill the unar on her way back. Smite this and run to try brush fast tri brush down if you are pulling the gromp.
I think you could maybe make tri brush before or if you use the plant as well. Yeah, she pass try brush but you still go just go just go and hope support is not there. I don't think support is here yet. Nice. Now go to enemy golems and check. >> Oh no, I have bad news, bro. I I smarted the the Twitch's cannon and now he's fine. Doesn't matter. Oh, really? >> No. Okay. So, >> okay. Recall here. There's nothing here. Recall. >> And then now I go straight uh Herald, right? >> Yeah.
I mean, the B is spawning, but you don't really care about it. You kill Lo top if he stays stopped because Lo is going to greet for this wave. He's going to eat probably and you kill him. Just go through tri like don't show him this. Don't show. Nice. Nice. You can go through here. Yeah. And just kill him. Yeah, this W was fine. The champ is just uh season 16 600 movement speed for no reason. But maybe he just it's it's not killable.
No, bro. Bro, it's fine. >> I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm such a piece of I'm actually such a piece of No, dude. Like, I'm actually disgusting. >> Oh my god. I need to be >> fine. In that situation, you just need to accept that riot games make broken champions and you can't kill him. Okay. >> Because that is that should be illegal for a champion to escape the situation. But you shouldn't oot. Like once you see that he's running, just let him leave.
It's fine. >> So you're saying that it's not even my fault. It's fault. >> It is Riot Games moment. Like I don't understand how champion like that can be released that he's running this fast for this long as a AP assassin. >> Yeah. And and let's not forget that he also heals 100% of the damage he takes. That that is very nice really games. Okay, after this you W over the wall and you run an enemy after you wasted your W.
It's like really important these small decisions because then you you're just faster everywhere on the map. >> Yeah. Yeah, you're right. You're 100% right. >> And now you take the raptors and you have another opportunity to kill that broken champion in bot lane. >> I wonder what's going to happen then. >> Surely this time you got him. >> You can smite the golems too. Honestly, eat the golems and then oneot them and run to B.
You don't care about Zin. He He's too tanky for you to fight him. Like you might get his flash, but only if he in you kill him. But uh I think Lo is too out. No, he's didn't greed for the wave. TF has no. >> Oh no, it's happening again. [laughter] >> Yeah, and let's not forget that every time he gets a kill or an assist, it resets. >> Yeah, I mean it is very balanced. Okay, clear your camps now. I don't think boots are big beacon.
I mean, I don't think he's going to die, but you can like keep blue and then watch mid what's happening, you know, like le the blue and then you are watching mid what's going on. >> But but now should I look to force dragon or should I just like >> uh I think just farm. I think just farm and let the situation evolve like you don't want to be pulling dragon when it's 5v5. Just hopefully your team doesn't run it and if they run it then you can't really help them there like your trucks just eat into anything here.
Maybe it's something cuz Zin now is forcing the situation. Go, go, go. Yeah. And then W forward auto Q and then ult. And you kill him. Oh, you shouldn't E before. >> Yeah, I know. Cuz I should have saved her for her dash, right? >> Yeah. >> Wait. >> And because >> the sucker is here. >> Okay. Okay. Stuff is recal. >> Nice. >> Oh, no. I'm dead. [laughter] >> No. Kill. Kill. Auto. >> OH, NO. NO. HE ESCAPES, BRO. HE HAS ANOTHER DASH.
HE HAS ANOTHER DASH. [laughter] >> If you had W max, I'm pretty sure you killed it there. >> Wait. >> [laughter] >> is this like is is this a sick joke? Is this a sick joke? [laughter] >> Is it like you just don't own? >> Yeah. Mortius next item. >> Um I mean it feels pretty bad to buy just for one person. I think defin is honestly still better item. Just don't buy boots. >> Okay. >> Double long sword and just go buy long sword.
Don't buy glowing mod. I mean that's a big throw. >> Yeah. >> Unlucky. The d the dragon is not contestable now. Just just go top side. >> All right. Maybe we just suck on hell then. >> I mean you could rush it only if you think that the next fight is losing. And I think the next fight is losing. So you should probably rush the herald so that enemy don't have opportunity to take it. >> What about going med >> cuz I mean you can look there if it's something but I don't think it's anything.
You have no flash. You can't really reach these champions. Ah >> seems like they running to you. I mean, go Re. >> Yep. Going now. >> I mean, your team really wants kills. I mean, just watch them with one eye, but I don't need anything. Yeah, >> you guys should really do Rift. >> Yep. I'm going. >> Also, use W to not tank auto attacks from Rift cuz he deals a lot of damage like when he autos like this. Yeah. Do the crab and then you probably just pull clear.
I don't think you should be trying to close in necessarily here. You could try to take a cone into his gromp if he comes there, but I think it's waste of time. Okay, >> you can you can try but I think it's waste of time. >> All right, now F down. >> Yeah, cuz if Zin gave up his GM, he's thinking you maybe are taking it and then he's not farming it while you are not actually taking it. You're just farming your camps already.
So, it doesn't really matter >> at this point in the game. Should I use my W while I'm clearing or should I like save it? >> Uh, you should usually save it to travel. Uh, but you can use it to clear too. Like for example, here you should use it to clear because you should have been pulling the red to right right side and then you don't have to W over the wall. >> Gotcha. >> Just clear it a bit faster. And also it still it still applies the the pet damage, right?
So you can leave the buff a bit early. >> Here after the Gromp, you don't have money for death. So you have opportunity to solo latex on bot w >> to be clear and quick. >> So a lot of the times it's just about me playing for whatever gets me gold for my next item, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> So now that people. That's why a lot of people like to go cash back in jungle instead of free boots, but I still think free boots are just better. >> Yeah. >> Oh, no, bro. >> No, I thought I had No, no, >> it's fine.
Just run there. The herald is still going to make you gold if it hits the tower. You can clear this wave so that it goes straight to tower. >> Like, it's not bad to use herald for plates, but it's a big win if you use herald and you win the team fight because the enemy don't expect it. I think you don't run with her. Run to top side and just look at the situation. You can kill the guy maybe. No, >> no, no. You can do something.
You can get the blue F. >> Yeah, >> they can't really kill you. They need to do Nash now because your team hold it down. >> Just play with him. Just don't go, you know. Oh Maybe you can win this. >> I don't know. >> Okay, you're out. Nice. And they didn't take Nash because they were chasing you. Nice. Recall. Recall. Recal. Recall. >> But what if they're on it? I need to say for myself. >> You're useful. I mean, you can you can try, I guess.
Wait, they were actually doing it without hunger. Then they should be all low. >> Don't don't fight them. Don't fight them. This is still healthy. No. Yeah, they're still healthy. Yeah, there's no way they finish that. They're pretty low. Reco magic now. Yeah, magic and pink. Then you go. Oh, okay. Right now, you could just take your blue and go to enemy golems and force a team fight there because his rout is almost back up and TF can come there and it could be a good play to just kill because you can't make it to top crab and you know it from base.
Use smite on this as well to do it faster and run TF ASAP. The TF is making a good catch. Okay, if I do this, what if they decide to >> they could do Baron, but usually people are not ready to just start it like instantly and uh Baron I mean B kill gives you gold and you can't do baron yourself so you don't care and maybe it's going to be good opportunity to fight top side like Sona should never be here right top sona should never be here getting the kill and that's why enemy could have a chance to do baron but they didn't even use it enemy golem spawn by the way and you know that they're not on the thingy so you can double over the wall >> yeah you can try to do Just think about the Yunara if she's actually coming here cuz you still don't have info of Yunar and Zin and Zin is not doing N so he's coming to here.
You can take his golems maybe are coming. Nothing's happening. Just take the golems. I think I guess you don't. That's a That's a crazy play but can work if you kill him. But I think you have to flash on him now. You can't flash out. >> I'm What is wrong with me? I mean, I thought you going to put a pink word over the wall or W over the walls, kill it, kill it with smite and just run, right? Or just leave from that area if you don't want to do that.
Oh, >> you you already got a big win. You stole his raptors and then Oliver comes waiting. >> Yeah. And then it's like it's like I have the win and then I just do something >> Yeah. Like I need to know that getting the raptors there was already a win. >> Yeah. >> Killing and getting raptors. >> Yeah, exactly. Like I don't need to go for more and more and more and more and more. Yeah, but your TF is doing pretty good this game.
He's >> What do you think about looking onions? >> Uh I wouldn't do that, but u because you just wasted your flash. If you had flash up, I would say it's pretty good. But uh I think it's not bad. Just look at this area cuz TF is seems like he wanting to like if you see someone TF seems like he's looking for an ult. You could just pull it now. Right now I think Unar is on the recall. Use W as well for damage first W because it's going to come back up before the fight happens.
And if TF is not I mean if Zen is not going to click here, you guys can maybe finish it. But it seems like it's going to be fight. But maybe you can finish this. Zen is still not coming in. He's going to come. It's going to be sleep. I think just sleep the Nasher. Better jungle one. >> Oh no. >> I think you can win. Yeah, slowly slowly. The the JS will carry when he's Eback. You just need to not die and that's it. >> I died.
You could have just waited for Jax to carry this situation. >> Yep. Inspired. Why am I a piece of >> I mean, that was not too bad. Like happens, right? Like sometimes you cannot smite the Nasher. But it's like when when you were like making mistakes like the one I'm making, would you like slam your head against like your desk? >> I mean, I would not make a mistake like you did in Bside for example, like trying to kill a Yunara for no reason.
Like I would not do that mistake. So I don't know what I would do. But when I lose my I just say unlucky. >> So wait, your coping mechanism is anytime something goes bad, you just say unlucky and you move on. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Wait, that's okay. Hey, so out of curiosity, like let's say you're playing LCS or you're on world stage, you guys lose game five of the BL5, you'll just be like, "Eh, unlucky." And you move on. >> Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, [laughter] >> you just you just can't do anything. >> Yeah, why not? respect. Actually, >> your J would ideally group right now and fight. Okay, he's doing it. And then TF is looking for an ult. You should come mid right now. >> Done. >> TF is going to soon. There's going to be big team fighting. I think you guys win the game. Kill kill the mid OP jump. You kill him with next and now finally delay for a second.
Uh, okay guys. Guys, I can explain the reason why we had to restart delay for a second is because I typed GG easy, but I accidentally put a letter that's right next to G before I type GG, and it looked like I was going to type a slur. And rather than have to deal with like a Twitter post and all that I was like, "You know what, dude? CBA like, dude, has ever h I mean, you don't have to answer because you're a pro, but tell me that's not the worst thing ever when you like accidentally put a letter and then it looks like something it's not." You know what I mean? >> Oh, wait.
That looks really bad. [laughter] >> Yeah. I mean, it's just taken out of context then. Like, >> yeah, >> is pretty cringe when people are like trying to make it up that you were actually did something wrong, but it was just actually like you just misclicked. >> Yeah, exactly. All right, dragon in 30. So now we just push mid. We look dragon, right? >> Um I think I'll take the top crab and wait, Jax is really far, but Atrix is just straight up wanting out of this game, I think.
So you probably just Yeah, that was good. Take it slow. You don't have to kill the Yara, but you can as well, >> bro. Tell me that wasn't a goated fight. >> Yeah, that was pretty good. That was pretty good. Atrix did set you up for that. Like he just wanted out of the game as >> Yeah, he literally just like ran it down. >> Yeah, I mean that's why you give counter pick to your top laner because that can happen in the game. >> No.
Uh in inspired my top laner first picked this game. It was my >> No, no, no. Atrox was the first pick. >> Wait, really? >> Yeah. >> Oh. Oh, easy. Okay. So interesting, bro. I'm gonna be honest. I'm genuinely learning so much. >> Yeah. I mean, that's the point of the coaching. [laughter] >> Yeah. You're not wrong. You know what I mean? Like [laughter] >> it'll be weird if you're not learning. >> Yeah. Jesus. >> Okay. So, let me think.
Let me think. Bro, I want you to be completely honest. Imagine I were to sit there and I keep applying all this stuff. I keep getting better. All that stuff. Do you think there's ever a chance that one day I could take your job and I could be the one jungling against owner? >> I don't think so. >> Why? >> I think I think it would take you a bit too long. I think you're you're you know a lot about the game but I think your instincts are not correct yet.
Like like sometimes you are too slow to do something or you are not uh maximizing everything you can do. Like for example the clear I feel like you can be faster around the map everywhere. Yes. The way you are doing camps like not even first clear because first clear can be optimized but after that it's also important how you position how you pull the camps that makes you have another 10 seconds to make a play and on that play you can get a lead for the team.
So there's a lot of stuff you need to work on I think. And uh then the team how the way you team fight you also need to uh know the moment you start winning the team fight what to do. You can't get excited after getting a small win like you did on Raptors when you just go for Unara and that just didn't make any sense, you know. Uh same on the dragon situation like you get Jan. You need to know that in that moment you are clearing dragon ASAP.
You don't want to waste time and you need to know you have smile advantage in that situation. So you can pull the dragon. Dragon is free there no matter what. And you don't want to die to kill a Janna. You want to flash out worst case and make sure that you survive stuff like that, you know. So out of curiosity, let's say you keep improving at the level you're improving at and I start improving at the level of like let's say each game of this coaching session.
How many years would it take before I become better than you? >> Bro, I I don't know. You'd have to ask JBT about that. I really don't know. >> But like would you say like half a half a year? Like would you say one year, five years, 10 years? Like like >> No, I think I think I don't know honestly. Maybe I would get bored of the game eventually. I would stop playing. Then you could take the spot. >> So, you're saying the only way that I could ever be a better jungler than you would be if you literally [laughter] quit the game? >> Maybe.
I guess so. Yeah. >> I respect it, bro. I respect it. I wanted you to play Hekarim now, but they did ban it. >> Oh, dude, that sucks. That means now we're going to have to do two more games of coaching. And he also ban Mastery Eye cuz the Wukong is getting boring at this point. But Warwick is also a pretty boring champ. >> Oh wait, no. But the thing is if you actually teach me more Warwick, then I could teach Jinxy. It's kind of like you know when you pour like a glass of water in one cup and then they pour it into another. >> Yeah.
Yeah, I know. But I don't know that many details about Warwick when it comes to like builds and when it comes like very micro stuff. Like I'm not that good on the champion. I didn't play much. So, uh I don't know if I can teach you anything specific, you know, and the champ is also pretty weak. Like especially his mid game clearing, like at that point, like he barely clears jungle. He he has no dash to get over the walls.
It's just just very bad champion. >> Interesting. >> His biggest strength is just his 1 v one power, but if someone doesn't fight you in one v one, it's like >> Well, let's see what time they lock in here. >> Okay. >> Oh, yeah. Warwick versus Nitali literally sells sounds like torture. >> I would not pick Warwick ever, but I think uh >> VGO Kindred >> VGO is not bad. I think Vego is better champ than Kindred. >> So, we got >> VOG as well is Yeah, Vego is a easy champ, but it's it's quite hard.
It's easy, but hard, you know, like you have to know exactly how you're supposed to use the abilities of other champs during the team fight really quickly. >> Oh, yeah. But dude, I'm telling you, I have that unlock because the thing about me is I have >> Is it better to go Halo of Blades? Like is it actually better? Cuz I don't know what what the VGO set up now. Is it still crit with >> Yeah, it is. You You go folk and you just everyone's mouth. >> Okay, I guess >> because dude, like there's something you have to understand about me.
The thing about me is that I have so many games of League that I know how to play every champion at a rank one level because I've seen the rank one level players play their champions at a rank one level. Does that make sense? >> I see. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Does make sense when you think about it. >> Uh oh. I have bad news, bro. >> What's up? >> We got our first challenger player. All right. Delay's coming back on. >> Wow.
[laughter] >> Wow. This is This is high elo. We got to We got to be careful. >> Yeah. I mean, challenger gin. [laughter] >> Why are you saying it like that? >> On VGO. On VGO. I don't know which pet is best nowadays, honestly. I think with crit Vego, maybe the green one is best. >> Yeah, I like green a lot. I like green a lot. >> Green might be the best. Try to work the raptors, I guess. I mean, needle will work the raptors no matter what because she will just push you out with her queue.
It is risky this game toward raptors. So, if they see you, you better not do it, I think. >> Yeah, they >> that's why sometimes that's why you sometimes go through both side to enter the bush because then your mid the mid laner doesn't spot you. And if they never see you and start top side, right? And if they never see you, then you can get the ward on on raptors. But if they see you and they have like champs like now to lose, they can easy just catch you there.
It's not good. >> Yep. Hopefully Italy doesn't late invade you here. >> Oh, if she does, it's game over. >> Yeah, but hopefully it doesn't happen. >> Normally, I like just like doing this, playing it there to check if sometimes they >> I mean, that's that's good. That's good to do that. >> Okay. I'm just letting you know though, my VGO, it's good mechanics, bro. I've been like having a lot of games on this for literal years now. >> Mhm. >> So, you might learn a thing or two this time around. >> Very nice. >> What do you think about like checking lanes?
Like when do you think a jungler should do that? Like for example, looking >> on also you want to auto W auto. You don't want to like like you did auto and then wait a bit and then W. Like you need to use the animation cancel. >> Oh, okay. >> And you can W for movements. I mean W for like dash as well. Like for example here you finishing golems, you should click W just to dash. >> Yeah. >> Uh when look at lanes. I mean look at lanes.
If you think you're going to impact them, [music] that's honestly like if you think you're going to impact that, then look at lanes. But on NA server, you probably don't even need to look at lanes cuz you're not going to be trying to impact them. >> Yeah, because dude, that's the thing that I found biggest difference between NA and EU. It's like NA, you're almost like more rewarded if you just full clear all the time, whereas EU you have to be on the map. >> It's because the players are just really bad and then uh the laner that gets ahead usually will end up throwing the game.
So you should blue, blue, blue, bro. >> Oh, for sake. >> I mean, doesn't matter at this point. when you already went to Gromp, you might as well start it. But usually it is better to go up first. >> Uh because the laner is getting ahead doesn't mean the game is over because the reality should be if the jungler if the laners are ahead, the game should be unplayable, right? Like you are not going to get a single crab from the rest of the game and the game is going to be really hard for you.
But that's not the case in America, they just stuck a stack a bounty that is waiting for you. >> Yeah. >> By getting ahead, you know. So it's not worth to get your laners ahead because then they will feed enemy jungler. >> Yep. Pretty weird to say, but it's actually just true. Just uh it's better to have laners that are behind like not super losing, but not having bounty. >> Yeah, exactly. >> You don't smite this, you just reco.
The same thing here because you don't have co >> You can go behind bot. Go behind bot. Don't go me. Don't go me. Don't go mid. You're not going to kill Zoe. B is not killable. Recall. Reco. >> You don't think mid was >> not mid is not killable because you need to think about needle. She didn't do anything in this game, right? So, she's in the same position as you. How you going to kill the Zoe that needle is in top side? >> Oh, genius. >> So, if you want to look anything there, you only look bot.
Unless enemy jungler did something during the during >> Yeah, because you're right. You're right. It's that whole concept where like if she's walking up, it's probably cuz like if I cleared and I don't see that Ni sitting right there, too. Yeah. >> And do golems on spawn. If you wanted to look top gunk, you don't do it now. You should have insta cleared the crab and insta recall. So if you are like really tryh harding and you can look at bot lane when you are doing the crab and if you see there is no angle to gank bot lane you don't even try to wrap around them you just insta recall after the crab and then you run top and then you have like 10 seconds to g top before you go >> and there's nothing you can do here sadly just midcap you have a useless champion >> yeah bro every game I I get a Vladimir or I get castin >> but she used flash so now she will actually be killable by you so it's not even that bad she's stacking bounty for you.
So if you get it, it's going to be good. >> And you recall after wolves cuz recalling now, so you can't car me. >> Yo, am I going to >> And the game is bugged. Riot Games. >> Games moment. >> It's always something with this company, dude. >> It is Riot Games moment. >> Don't buy boots, bro. Bro, you found My god, bro. Wait, do you think it's actually better to get a dagger over boost? >> Never. Yes, you never buy boost.
Why would you buy boost? You want to run faster or you want to get your Kraken to kill the needle? >> Oh, Okay. Yeah, my bad. Sorry, it's he player bearing. >> Yeah, I mean even Hearim I feel like this season it just feels terrible to buy boots in the even game if you don't get kills. I think you buy boots. Don't remember 5:30. Okay, you dance with this GR. Buying boots is good if uh you got a kill uh early game. I think otherwise FF unlucky.
[laughter] It's fine. He's stucking a bounty for you. Okay, now just focus on this fight. Doesn't have a smite upgrade. If not, then you rush the crap. Rush the crap towards both side. Okay. >> Yeah, but they have the trick. It's going to be tricky. I mean, just play it smart. You have a smite upgrade. Don't show Don't show. >> Oh, my team has cancer. >> You have a smite upgrade. You have a smite upgrade. But >> I know inspired.
What the do I do? I mean, you don't have to in it, but you have to like be in that area cuz uh >> I'm pretty sure you can try to outplay that. >> But do you not think that's just like team gap? Like realistically, what am I saying? >> It is. But you have a smite up, so there is a chance that you flash smite it and it's actually worth there because you hit level six and even if you die, it's not a big deal. >> Really?
You think dying for crab there is good? Why? >> Yes, it is. Because you just get level six of it. Enemy get 300 gold on one champion. It does not matter. Like it legit does not matter. You get stronger and them getting 300 gold there and denied level six on needle is really worse for you. Start golems. >> Interesting. Okay. >> But you need to play it smart cuz if you die and not get it, then it's terrible. >> Yeah. >> So if if they play perfectly, you are not able to get it.
But you have to play in a way to make it hard for them there cuz you don't have a better play than that. Like the whole team is gapped. But if you would see Nidelli being two seconds too late to that crab, you should start hitting it instantly and don't care about Gautus coming because you know that you're going to win the smite there. It legit takes you like 3 seconds to kill that crab smite. >> Gotcha. >> Would you say it's worth maybe like going mid here? >> Um, no, I don't think so.
And that will happen every game, but nothing you can do. The guy's losing jacks to Yon. >> Oh, wait. Uh, and how you want to come back to this game is probably ganking Landre's lane when she's level six or she's back in lane. So, right now, you just clear your camps and then you just go through lane bot or to to avoid the wards in a way to avoid the wards. If they don't have ward in pixel and try and you know that, you just show there and try to gain.
If they have ward, you go for lane and you wait for nothing to hook in. >> Okay, so pretty much just like kind of >> you can go for lane because your your lane has push. Just clear these two camps and then you go bot through lane and you wait for to cook in in one of your teammates. You don't base. Go through lane and hide in the bush. Needle right now is either on her golems or grabs. Okay, Nat went to grabs. Go bot for lane and just stay there.
You legit has no play because Vladimir is just useless and they are top. Maybe you guys can dive bot. Just don't show. You will walk with the wave. If the guy stays under tower, Landre is going to flank him and you guys can maybe kill him. But enemy team is actually prime T1. >> Wow. >> The guy is playing weak side with clearing wave with the with the ult and then they're playing top side. Rush the dragon. >> What the >> Enemy team is actually good.
That's why this genius challenger. >> They get a challenger Jin and I get hence up sucks. Spam ping as he goes 03 as Jax versus Yon. >> Unlucky. >> True. True. unlucky. >> You could look with Landre once cuz it's a good timing cuz the game is being lost. So, you need to do something. This type of place can come back you to the game. Oh my god. Why did you >> Okay. Okay. Don't Don't play here. Now is almost here and you just wasted.
You don't even have smite. >> Should I just rec? Cuz I don't have enough for Kraken. >> Yes. Clear. Yes. And can you click gold? How much is left for Kraken? >> Uh six. >> Yeah. And right now if you cleared camps you would easily have it for uh because if you would not buy boots but you bought boots so >> so it's going to still be a while but it's fine. And stealing the kill there I think was a fine option but uh I would probably not try to do that cuz she was already confirmed that. >> Hopefully Resley doesn't die 22 on one wave.
Just go there ASAP up and look for lane. >> You see Jon was just stucking a bounty. J got it back. Gotcha. >> Doesn't matter. Leon is three zero. He died solo even. I mean, right now we don't have W, so there's nothing. Go Gromp. And then of Gromp from base, you're going to go to Lisandra lane. You clear this and recall. And then you go back bot even though your top side are spawning because the game is becoming very lost and you need to get a kill. >> Got >> top or bot?
Which is more killable? And you go there through lane. I think honestly top might be better. Go top lane. >> Yes. I think top is higher chance that he's going to die here. I'm pretty sure with this wave, Yon will just fight and he can die one shot. Don't listen to him. You go there anyway. >> Yeah, he can. >> I think go through lane. Go through lane, I think. Oh, actually, you can go here. You can go here. No, no, no.
Go here. Go here. Cuz he's going to try to hold the wave. I think you you should try to pressure him. I don't know why. Okay, let's go. Let's go. Let's go. I don't know why Jax just wasted E on minion wave. >> Nice. And then >> can take his wave. Take his wave. Take his wit, man. Didn't get anything. [laughter] >> No, I think it's better that way cuz he would have actually like blown a blood vessel. >> Okay, rush it.
Rush it. Rush it. Need really wants this crap. If you get it and then top side, it's really big. >> Jungle diff. Jungle diff. Jungle diff. >> Jungle diff. >> Nice. Don't get >> She's invading. She's invading. She's invading. What do I do? What do I do? What do I do? Just just prove the camp and if she comes to smite it like you she will smite it. You can maybe win though if like that she's weak. It's fine. It's fine.
Just get the small ones. The big one doesn't matter. It would be worse if you took your red. >> True. >> Ping your J. He can help you. Look for raptors if she's trying to take raptors. Bro, she's not pulling your red. >> True. >> She might be trying to get your raptors. >> Holy You're a genius. >> I think I just like >> She doesn't have smite. Just make sure she doesn't get a big one. >> Oh god. I have her. I'm I'm piece of >> One shot her.
One shot. Yo, Vladimir is here, bro. You one shot her. Wait, Vladimir was full charging the combo. He was ready to one shot her. >> Oh no, >> why did you W out? I'm a piss. >> That's also a rule of jungling. You can't run away. If you die, you die. You go forward, you deal as much damage as you can. If they come like this to your jungle and you die and if no one from your team trades, then just team up. You can't be running away. >> Okay?
Because even if you escape here with one HP and it doesn't die because she's full HP and you lose your camps, the game is over. >> No, the thing is like No, I agree with you cuz like I have this student Jinxy and like if he would have done what I just said, I would have just started like verbally him. Like I'm not bullshitting. [laughter] >> I see. >> Yeah. >> Okay. It's fine though because Neil didn't take your camps.
I'm pretty sure she didn't take raptors either. She only took the small ones. So it's fine. You will still have a pet upgrade really soon. Okay. But it was a comeback potentially. Needle made a big misplay. >> Yeah. Well, I mean, Jax still got a lot. I think Jax wins lane. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Jax should be winning lane from the beginning. But if he won when he was 03, then surely he wins now. >> True. >> Okay. Clear.
And now go to Landre lane through lane and you try to kill now to lose after you're done farming. Ignore me pings. Vladimir is a useless champ. There's nothing. I mean, just follow Landre. If Landre goes there, you have to go there. Like, just Landra should be bot and just trying to kill him or try to kill Zoe. It's up to Landra, but she seems very not doesn't know what she wants to do. Yeah, just go behind Landra. That's your setup champion. >> If she goes bot, you have to go bot.
You might come for the needle. Okay, this saw you. Clear the wards. Clear both and don't over force this cuz now needle is going to be in the area. You can pull the dragon. Okay, you guys are forcing. Seems doable if he has no flash. Okay, I think you kill everyone. Nice. Nice. >> Yo, inspire. You see the game is over >> inspired. I think you might be coaching owner right now, bro. I'm not even kidding. >> That was But did you see Landra play?
That was pretty good by Landrea. I I didn't know J has no flash, but she just went very confident and just set up a kill for you and then you will just clean up. That's >> your job. >> No, she did good. She did good at playing around the fact that I'm the best player on the team, >> I guess. So, yeah. Don't smite it. Don't smite it if you can't lose it. But if Gene W, then you would smite it. >> And now I take her raptors, too.
I mean will be here and Zo is here. It's It's just waste of tempo, but you should have been recalling long time ago. You already have item. But you can stand this bush. Yeah, it's good. It's not bad if she face tricks you. But it's waste of tempo. So hopefully it works. >> Yeah, I'm a piece of I'm a I deserve to get >> you have item. So you should base after take instantly. And now ping the herald. Maybe Jax can check it in order the guy if if the guy is actually rushing it.
I mean the J doesn't care. >> Yeah, he doesn't give a bro. >> I mean it's fine. It's fine. >> He just Like, you know what the problem is inspired, bro? It's that there are two types of people that play solo cube. People that want to win and people that are just rage queuing cuz they're depressed. And he's one of the second kind. >> Yeah, I know. I know. Sadly, there's more. Oh, kill. Oh, he doesn't kill his collector.
That she has to be so close to collector range. Maybe if you smite it. >> Maybe. Maybe. >> I mean, you can't kill Needle. That's not possible. She's going to heal up to full, but you can try if you want. But I guess no one is helping her as well. Her team is also AFK. No, they are helping her. I mean, you just get mad because she took your golems, right? >> Yeah. >> And you need to control your emotions as well as a jungler.
Sometimes >> you have Would you have done what I just said there? >> No, I wouldn't. I would control my emotions and say unlucky that she survived to one HP. Happens and it was your mistake because you didn't smite the golems. So if you played better, she wouldn't get it and then she would lose so much time. >> Yeah. I I just I swear to God, bro, I think you unironically had the best thing ever. I should literally just start saying unlucky every time anything goes bad. >> Yeah, I guess so.
Yeah, I mean I mean that was not actually unlucky. That was just very bad by you to go there. But unlucky part was that she got the golems and then and then you just that's unlucky part and you can't control clear your bot side. I think you shouldn't go here. I mean, you can go here. Okay, go with Landra. I think this time you could skip a camp because Landra has flash and she's a broken champ. So, you could skip a camp here and look for something because they might lend him.
Nice. And now you one shot him before he is. >> Nice. Uh, do you do her of this? I think you should. I think personally you should if your team is going to help you, but I don't know if you can expect your team to help you. I think don't do it now. Don't do it. Go to bot camps. Your team is not going to help you from their clicks cuz Zo is coming and Vladimir is not interested. >> And then I hover Vlad's side or what? >> Uh you probably just uh base to spend your gold and fight with Landre when she has or fight with Jax.
Vladimir is just a useless champ. You can't do anything with him. You don't go to Vladimir. You just go to Jax cuz he has CC and Yon is going to go top. I think needle is going to take the crap. So you could base here and spend your gold. Uh what's the next item? >> Uh uh LDR. Okay, then buy triple long sword. Needle is probably on that crab. She might be starting rift, but you don't know. You should want to take your golems and look with Jax.
Oh, Nei is one and will just die. It's fine. Look at Jax if now to Fix him. No, just the golems at this point. You one shot Netherly completely, I think. So, like if she for example would cue the red buff and it's up, she would just die for it. I think don't don't bother being here. If you get hooked, you're in a bad spot. So, don't try to be here. Maybe botan. >> Yeah, just get the wave and then run bot side. You could camp in the raptors area for needy.
Like act like you're going bot and then just camp in the raptor bush cuz I think you do have enough damage to one shot. >> I don't think so. Real talk. >> Okay, I mean sure. I think camp on Okay, you bot and Zo is in here. >> I I you I do think you have enough damage to kill nearly one shot. Don't Don't go this way. This way. Go to golem's bush. Golem's bush. >> Yes. Yes. She's going to go to golems and just one shot her.
Just wait. Just wait. Now we're waiting because you don't want to take it cuz it's going to scare it away. No. No. Lisandra, brother. >> Okay. And charge your W and you need to hit it. >> Oh my god. You're actually a beast. How did you know that? >> You killed there with flash. Oh my god. >> Yeah. I'm for flashing. Get >> get plates. Plates. Plates. Plates. Now you benefit from this kill. plate and wave, >> bro. You know what you are?
You're like the Doctor Strange of Jungle. [laughter] >> Okay, do dragon before you recall >> because needle is still on the death island. >> Pull it with W over the wall. Oh >> Wait, do you say or she ball? kind of both. I mean, when I'm next to the Korean teammates, then sometimes the >> You're from Poland, right? >> Yeah. >> KA, [screaming] [laughter] good one. >> Thank you. All right. And then I full clear up. >> Yeah.
Yeah. I think the crab is about to spawn spawn now. They have timing to rush Nash, but I don't know if they're good enough, the enemy team, because you guys overstate bot side. But you clear your camps. If they don't do Nash, then you are hard chilling. Neither might be on your raptors. You can ping for Ezreal and Landre. They might kill every like Landre can set up a trap right now. Okay. N didn't go for it. Instead, she just killed Ezreal because he got hit by a max spear.
Wow. Just recall of this VF item. How much was it? >> Yeah. 2250. >> Okay. Base. >> Okay. Gotcha. >> Item and pink W and you go to Jack's side and fight with Jack now and Landre. Yeah, their blue is a good fight. So you one shot this and you go there. Hopefully Lisandra will find a good angle to engage. Oh, don't don't focus now to lose. Okay, that's lose condition. Unless he's one shot, but he's not one shot in this situation.
You are not playing with anyone right now. You are going completely alone. Think about it. >> Yeah, just feel. >> Take it slow. Take it slow. Take it slow. Take it slow. It's fine. You can still win this. They might over force. Gene might be an angle, but I think no. Just wait. You can't do anything. Your team just completely ran it. You just need to not now in game. Careful, careful. Don't get poked. N might flash Q if it's literally good.
But I think you guys still win this. The Nash does a lot of damage. Ezreal will start ooting and queuing them. Nice. Oh no, he got bubbled. Oh my god. You can't one shot to lose. The worst thing you can die is die here. Don't die. Just play smart. Nice. Okay. I mean, you could fight on the way out. Like you saw their health bars are getting lower and lower. >> It is a It is a tough situation. Everyone on your team did really bad.
Like really bad. But yeah, >> it's okay. We still have soul con. >> Yeah. Yeah, that's true. >> What do you think I should get next item? >> I probably should though, right? I don't think I is worth it. And that's the problem of this Creed Va is like right now you don't like any item doesn't feel that great. Like it feels very nice on two items when you have Kraken Collector, but then you just start getting worse >> cuz you still don't have enough damage to oneot someone or like one tank and you are one shot. >> Yeah, >> I think go top.
I think the crab is going to be gone before you get there. Unless they don't go there. I mean, enemy team should go to the crab. But >> Natalie is going to be late. I think we're okay. >> She likes golems, I guess, instead of crab. Yeah, this is a good camp by Sandra. Really good. It's going to be close, I think. Just focus these guys. No. Land. Landra. Go. Landra. Go. Go. Go. Go with her. Go with her. I can I can completely.
Okay. GG. >> Wait. Maybe they win. >> Not GG. If he trades, if he trades kills, it's not GG. Okay. It's not GG. It's not GG. You get some kills. But the situation actually might be still wable. J is full HP. And the enemy team is really throwing. They They are wasting their Nash right now. >> Oh my god. They're trolling, bro. They're trolling, bro. >> Yeah. Oh my god. Oh my god. OH MY GOD. INSPIRED. INSPIRED. INSPIRED.
HOLD ME. [snorts] >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. Guys, they spawned rift. Oh no. They spawned the combat rift and they all survived. >> Oh. >> Oh no. >> Well well well >> wait a second though. Wait a second though. >> Nice. >> I mean they used a lot of sums though. Am I crazy if I say Loki word? Yeah, they they did they did use some. So, it's actually Loki worth. Yeah, I agree with you because they had Nash, so they didn't siege you guys and they wasted something for soul.
So, it's actually Loki worth. Okay, nice, nice. Enough, enough, enough. Now, just clear your camps and get as much gold as you can before the soul fight and buy a potion. Just clear this three camps and buy a potion. If you have money for the potion after this, just base after this. Don't go for raptors like you are not getting stronger of raptors. You have 500 in rest. I don't really I mean you'll have to wait in base.
Okay, I guess just just wait in base a bit. >> Which uh which one would you get? >> Uh the the damage damage one AD and you group with Jax through lane bot ping for bot. Ping your team that you all should go bot. You shouldn't stay mid. Combat and right combot right combot. Everyone should combot. If you stay mid, Zoe is going to one shot someone. And here if you guys engage, it could be a good fight. Or maybe they will in for Landra.
Focus and not lose if he takes the plant over. I think you guys can one shoot him. He didn't. Could be a good angle. Yeah. Oh G might get one shot. >> It's hard. Your team is in Africa freaks. >> Bro, >> it was a nice try. It was a nice try, but Vladimir decided to not follow the call of going bot and then Landre just died to air just getting hit by a nearly maximum spears. Unlucky sometimes just can't carry every game.
Like sometimes your team will just do this. >> Yeah. You know what we call that inspired? >> What? >> Loser queue. >> It is loser queue. I mean it is three hard losing lanes. So but don't scale. Oh, they didn't recall to spend their gold. Maybe it's an angle. >> Bro, I can't do anything. >> So useless. >> I I just can't do >> But this is the best thing you guys tried because they didn't spend their money off of the bot fight.
So they are just playing on the edge. >> Looks like again just like splitting bot, dude. because he just picked a useless champion that doesn't do anything early game, doesn't do anything mid game, and doesn't do anything late game because it loses early game. So, thank Vladimir M should be bannable. >> GG. We lost inspired. Wait, he just got rabbit in 25 seconds. >> No, no, he just got rabbitons, bro. He just got rabbitons. >> Okay, so he's useful now. >> Maybe he has no flash.
He's just running around. Why did he run to his base? And he died. Wow. I That's what kills me the most in solo cube because a lot of players play those scaling champs, but they're just so bad that even when they get to scale, they don't carry the game. So, they make you not help you early game and then they will scale, but they will still not carry. So, what's the point of playing scaling champ if you are too bad to carry late game? >> True.
Landre has flash next fight though. >> Yeah. I mean that's that's your guys hope but the problem is they have so many carry champs. They have Jin, Yon, Neidley and and Zo is also strong. So it's like you kill one but the rest is going to kill you. >> Yeah. And I don't really even have a good form to take cuz if I take any ones I just saw instantly. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean not lose self at the beginning of the fight would be ideal but he would have to make a big mistake for that to happen.
Yeah, that play could be interesting if they actually stay. But I mean, enemy team is really tryh harding. Like the grab sequence they did and like how they are playing now. They're like really tryh harding. >> Yeah, >> I think give it and just let J push both. No, I think you guys unless you want to try to steal. >> No. >> Okay, then just run ASA up because they should fight you. It is still like the highest chance of playing like this. just getting gold in side lane and then hope that they like dive your nexus and die cuz they can easily try to end with this Nash and just die on body in hip or like under nexus towers. >> So if you really want to try to win that's like the win. >> I agree. >> They're all going bot now.
They are not Oh, Zoe's going top alone with no TP. You could kill Zoe. I think if anything Zoe is going to be alone. I don't know why Vladimir groups now instead of trying to kill Zoe that is alone before enemy teaming groups when they're so much stronger. I think now they're all coming to top to group with them and it's a bit too late. Actually, maybe not too late if they take the choke. They are taking the choke. Go, go, go, go, go, go.
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