The Truth About Trump & The Iran War - Dan Bilzerian x Jack Neel transcript

[clears throat] >> Get test 1 2 3. >> It was great to meet you in person finally. I know we talked a couple months ago. >> Yeah. Yeah, I had a pretty good chat there. Yeah. I was surprised. Um What stood out to me was that it seemed like you wanted to talk about the Jewish question a little bit more than Nick, which Yeah, that was interesting. Yeah. I haven't really seen anyone double down on it except for maybe Fishback.

But did he really though? You want to just start rolling? Might as well. Might get some [ __ ] So >> I'm going to bring this in closer to you, okay? >> Okay. Yeah, so do you feel like Fishback is authentic? >> It's a good question. Um Hm. I can't really figure him out. What do you think? I think he's unequivocally better than who he's running against, so I would vote for him, but something feels slightly off. It just I don't know.

He seems like a politician. That's my read is like he's saying what he thinks will resonate with the audience and uh I don't know. Like he talks about AIPAC and Israel a lot. >> Hm. >> Which as a you know, governor isn't really like kind of a Florida issue. >> Right. >> You know, so it's like if that's really kind of his passion, then it seems strange to run for that office. Um Also, to me I think it's deeper. I think it's a Jewish supremacy problem.

I don't think that it's an Israel AIPAC problem. I think those are kind of like these triggers, right, that people respond well to, but it there's like a lot deeper issue. And so I think just talking about AIPAC and and Israel all the time seems like a touch point. It doesn't seem like somebody that's like really passionate about it, you know? >> I guess when you think about the maybe first, second, third-order effects of that kind of rhetoric, like what do you think it causes? >> What do you mean by that?

Like >> I guess if someone running for politics in the Florida um like a running for governor within Florida talking about a more international and widely domestic issue, like what do you think would be maybe his goal? >> Well, to get elected, right? I think a lot of people saw what happened with Mondaire. Right? And I think a big catalyst to him winning was him saying that he's just not going to go to Israel, and everybody's like, "Oh my god, did you hear this guy's not going to go to Israel?" You know, and it's like, "Well, the guy before him was like, 'I'm going to take my fifth trip to Israel.'" And the guy before was like, "Oh, I'm going to take my fourth trip to Israel." And he's just like, "I'm going to focus on the five boroughs." >> Mhm. >> And everybody's like, "Oh my god, he's how anti-Semitic." You know what I mean?

It was just like this kind of fake outrage. And I think a lot of these people are in echo chambers where their donors are talking and other influential people in New York or whatever, and this idea that you would not be catering to Israel is so foreign to them that they didn't understand that that's actually going to really resonate with New Yorkers that don't give a [ __ ] about a foreign country and don't want to send their tax dollars there.

And so, it's seems like a little bit of a, you know, page out of that playbook, but maybe not, you know, maybe it's authentic and maybe he just really cares about Israel. Um >> I will say the one thing that I found strange is that um James Fishback wasn't listed on the what was it? Top 10 most anti-Semitic influencers around the world. >> That's a hard That's a hard hill to climb, you know? >> [laughter] >> Not many of us in the >> I mean, you were ranked circle. >> You were ranked number one above Tucker, Candace, and Nick Fuentes as the most dangerous anti-Semite on Earth.

Like, what do you think you said that made Israel rank you number one? >> Well, I think I focus on the Jewish supremacy problem, and I don't talk about Zionism, and I don't hide from the issue, and I think I talk about the deeper problems with the issue. I'm also running for Congress. I'm the only one actually [ __ ] doing something about this, you know, and I feel like there's a lot of people talking about it, and now talking about it makes you a lot of money.

So, you know, when I started doing this, they'd get you killed, they'd get you canceled, like all this [ __ ] and now it's kind of like a career. It's a Tik Tok trend. Like, people are doing it to get views. That's just weird. I mean, I'm happy about it. Like, that's great for people's awareness, but I think it takes a little bit away from some of the authenticity of people wanting to fix the problem instead of just profiting from talking about the problem.

And I want to fix the [ __ ] problem. I'm done talking about it. Like, it's all talked out. Talked about this for two, three [ __ ] years now. We've said everything. Everybody gets it. Like, look at the comments. Like, 97% are in support of what I'm saying. So, people understand. Like, everybody knows. Everybody knows, but they're just like whispering around about it. Nobody really wants to [ __ ] talk about it. Tucker knows exactly what the [ __ ] going on.

But, he doesn't like really want to dive into the cause. He doesn't want to talk about, you know, that whites are being [ __ ] genocided, really. I mean, if you look at what is happening, it's an attack on the white community. Like, this whole DEI, this open border, this melting pot idea, this, you know, kind of white guilt, um, this white supremacy is the greatest threat to America. Like, all that rhetoric come from the Jewish media, that's an attack on being white.

Which is kind of whatever, but it's a serious attack. And then they're also attacking masculinity. And then in every movie, the white guy is this cocked out beta male, and his wife is cheating on him, and he's apologizing for it, and he's trying to win her back, you know? It's just like, what the [ __ ] is going on here? And then there's like 30% gays in movies, you know? And it's like half black, and it's Like, I don't care, you know, have your diversity, whatever, but like make it realistic.

I mean, I watched a movie where they had a woman as a Navy SEAL, a black woman as a Navy SEAL. She weighed about 100 lb, looked like a [ __ ] model. Like Like, first of all, like hardly any black guys get through SEAL training. I you know, maybe cuz they're not great swimmers, whatever. Maybe they don't you know, most of them don't sign up for it, but the point is there's been very few you know, like I think I know most of the black SEALs.

Like I'm friends with most of them, and there's not many. Um and there's never been a woman Navy SEAL. So, to cast a a black woman as a Navy SEAL Like, it just completely took me out of the movie, cuz it's complete [ __ ] And it's not about whether or not, you know, it's a woman or man, or black, or what. It's just like she couldn't do the job. You know, a 100-lb woman couldn't carry out somebody if they got shot. Like, she's combat ineffective.

She couldn't even carry the loadout. Like, a typical Navy SEAL carries an 80-lb loadout. That's like her whole [ __ ] body weight. So, it's just ridiculous. But they don't care, you know? And uh I can't even watch movies anymore. There's just like so much propaganda baked into them that they make it unwatchable. And so, yeah, I'm upset about that, you know? And I'm upset that we can't talk about these things. And I'm upset that Jews are in a victim category when they are the most privileged class in the entire world.

So you know, let's talk about that. Let's talk about like what's actually [ __ ] going on instead of like skirting all these issues and talking about Zionism and whatever, because Jews were attacking Christians long before Israel's inception. The Bolshevik that was before Israel. That was Jews killing Christians in like record numbers, you know, 30 to 60 million of them. They destroyed almost all the Christian churches in an 80-something percent Christian Russian country.

So, and that's not disputed. You look on chat GPT and it'll tell you you know, they're only like 5 or 10%. But then you look at like real sources like Putin said it was 84%. Alexander Solzhenitsyn said it was like massively overrepresented Jewish. Hitler said it, you want to throw out him, fine. But how about Churchill? He wrote Zionism versus Bolshevism, struggle for the Jewish soul. And he talks about there very distinctly that the Bolshevik movement was massively disproportionately led by Jews and that was a Jewish movement.

And what did they do? They made it illegal to be Christian and illegal to criticize Jews. >> I guess like when you look at right now, what's the biggest lie being told in 2026? >> Oh man, we're being told so many lies. Um the biggest lie. I mean >> [laughter] >> like I said, where do you start? How how do you define big, right? I mean like you know, everything that they told us about why we started this Iran war is a lie.

Like it wasn't about you know, nuclear weapons. They had a fat one 2004 saying they would never have nuclear weapons. They killed the guy that agreed to never have nuclear weapons. They killed the negotiator that agreed to sign in that they would never have nuclear weapons. They allowed all the inspections. They had the JCPOA, like there was no threat of them creating a nuclear weapon. They were not enriching uranium.

It was all lies and we heard these same lies for 35 years. Two more weeks. They're a week away from having a nuke. For 35 years we're told this [ __ ] And when you look at the people that, you know, agreed to not have nukes, what happened to them? Gaddafi, Saddam, you know, like these people were murdered. And Kim Jong-un has nuclear weapons, will not allow any nuclear inspections, has not signed the nuclear nonproliferation treaty, and we can't attack him.

Why? Cuz he has [ __ ] nukes. So, what are you telling people? Like, go get nukes or we're going to kill you. And so, this whole thing of like we had to stop them from creating a nuke was total [ __ ] That was the justification for bombing them. And according to Trump, we stopped their ability to create nukes for years and years because we bombed them so effectively. And yet, here we are 7 months later attacking them for some reason to prevent them once again from acquiring these nukes that they've never had and that they agreed not to have.

And so, how effective is it to kill their supreme leader, who by the way to them is like the Pope? So, you're killing not only their leader, but their religious leader. And this is Shia Muslims that believe that if they die in combat or die, you know, doing what is right, that they are going to the greatest level of heaven. So, you take the most extreme religious group, and you kill their leader, and then you put his son in.

You don't just kill the leader, you kill the family, too. Then you put the son in there. And that's supposed to make us more safe? >> Right. >> Like, how [ __ ] ridiculous is that? >> Who do you think this war benefits the most? >> Israel. That's the only person That's the only country that wants the war. >> Mhm. >> [clears throat] >> Does it benefit America in any way? >> It's absolutely horrendous for us. It's horrendous for the GCC.

I mean, it's horrendous for allies. It's just like it's bad for everyone. >> Mhm. >> And I don't think people understand like the potential fallout effects of this. You know, they're seeing it at the pump, but like this could literally end the world. Like, it could literally end the world. I mean, if if Israel decides to fire some of their illegally acquired nukes that they're not supposed to have, that they don't allow nuclear inspections, you know, um then Russia's going to retaliate, you know, North Korea said they might retaliate, you know, China, who knows?

I mean, it just brings everybody in. And, um, yeah, and for what? Like, what what do we have to gain here? To topple a regime? Like, how successful have been the regimes that we toppled previously? Like, has there ever been a successful one? Has there ever been one we toppled the regime and the people were better off for it? I don't remember any. Tenure >> a world-class poker player, likely an expert in game theory. I mean, if you were going to try to imagine what Trump's mindset is around all this, like, what would you think it is? >> I think he's blackmailed, and I think that he is trying to make as much money for himself and his family as possible.

I think this presidency was a necessity for him. He had 36 felony charges. I don't think he was doing very well financially. You look at where he's at now versus where he was at the start of his presidency. Um, and I think their net worth and his family's net worth has, you know, more than doubled. So, I think he is doing what is in the best interest for himself. The problem is when you have a leader of your country that is focused on what's best for him and the people that donated millions of dollars to him for benefit of a foreign country, you get bad [ __ ] for the United States.

It should come as no surprise that we are going to pay the price for that. >> I'm not sure if you're familiar with, uh, Professor Shang's work. We had him on the podcast. Uh, have you seen any of his stuff? >> I've seen some of his stuff, and I saw Mehdi Hasan go after him pretty hard, um, trying to discredit him. Go after him saying that he's not a real professor, and kind of remind me of Piers Morgan approach. Um, I lost a lot of respect for Mehdi in that interview.

I think that, um, a lot of what he's predicted has been pretty impressive, and he tried to discredit him in every way, shape, or form on the interview. Um he's a lot nicer than I was. I would have told him to go [ __ ] himself, you know. [laughter] >> What do you make of this whole theory that Trump is a mastermind behind all of this and is kind of listening to people like Jared Kushner, uh Steve Witkoff, uh and doing as they say in an attempt to maybe end this war 2 years from now and take all the credit for it. >> Um I don't see him as a mastermind at all.

I know him. I know people that know him. Um he's not an idiot, but he's not a genius, either. Um he's good at marketing. He um understands like what people are going to respond to. Um and that's a skill set. That's a type of intelligence, but um him being like an overall, you know, 5D chess player or whatever this [ __ ] that they say is this is not true. Um he's compromised, and he is he did not want to go into the Iran war.

He did not want to do that. I think he had to do that. And if you look at his historical tweets, I mean, he talked [ __ ] about people for, you know, potentially doing that or thinking about doing that. Lit- I mean, word for word. Um and it's funny because he's doing all the things, you know, he took money from the Adelsons and he had, you know, said previous tweets about how, you know, people take money from them, it's corruption and whatever.

So, he's doing all the things that he talked [ __ ] about. And I think that he is an extreme narcissist, and I don't think that he has any allegiance to the truth whatsoever. And that's one of the reasons why I think our politics are so [ __ ] is because our politicians do not care about telling the truth. They have no accountability, and there's nothing that's going to happen if they don't. Like, if they just lie and lie and don't tell the truth, the [ __ ] does it matter?

What are we going to do? >> We've seen over the past year the Iran war start. Over the past a few years ago, we were told that Epstein deleted himself and we were told Charlie Kirk was killed by a lone shooter. What do you make of that last one? >> The Charlie Kirk? Um well, I don't believe his wife in any way, shape, or form. Um she was celebrating hat sales gleefully a week after his gory murder on national television.

She's got a family with this guy. Um her WWE entrance into the Turning Point events with [ __ ] fireworks and her jumping up and down like just not seem like a grieving widow at all. Um if you look at her past, it doesn't align with who she pretends to be. I don't believe her at all. I think she's a total piece of [ __ ] >> Have you met her? >> No. >> Have you met him? >> Uh I talked to him previously, obviously. Yeah. >> Hm. >> [clears throat] >> I think she's a total honey pot.

I I look at guys like that, you know, guys like him, Kash Patel, these guys that get into positions of power that haven't probably hooked up with a lot of girls, and what's the easiest way to control them? Put a woman in there, you know, put a woman in there that, you know, this whole happy wife, happy life stuff, you know, they they tell you, you know, you got to make your wife happy and this and that and, you know, Hollywood tells you that, you know, you know, you you got to, you know, respect the wife, and I agree, you have to respect your wife and you should treat her with respect, but I think the man should be in charge of the relationship.

I believe in masculinity, I believe in femininity. However, what you have in a lot of these relationships because of this promotion of like a boss [ __ ] and whatever, you have these very dominant women that come in and society seems to kind of like applaud that, and then they come in and they've got kind of free rein to control these guys. And um it doesn't seem like the guys are ever held accountable for it. It seems normal.

It's been very normalized. And so what better way to control a guy than, you know, to have his wife kind of like telling him what to do. She gets to hear all the intimate secrets. She knows exactly what's going on. >> Would you guess that's the standard playbook for control? >> Seems like the easiest way, you know, finger on the pulse. I mean, I'd rather have, you know, a wife planted in with somebody living with them, spending every minute with them than I would tapping their phone.

You can find out a lot, you know, people usually confide in their wife. People usually, I mean, if you're going to marry a girl, you probably love her, you know, trust her. I mean, most people wouldn't marry somebody they don't trust or love or whatever, so if I would want to control somebody, you know, you've got blackmail and then you've got, you know, putting a kind of a handler in there and what better handler than a wife, you know?

Sometimes it's a manager for a, you know, musician or whatever, but the wife would probably be I mean, especially if the guy wasn't a super dominant guy and hadn't had a lot of experience with women and felt like this was he was kind of dating out of his league and he didn't want to lose this one and whatever, that woman would probably have a massively disproportionate amount of control. >> You tweeted hours after Charlie Kirk was killed last September, Charlie Kirk figured it out.

Rest in peace. What did he figure out? >> Well, I think that was posted with a video of him talking about the NGOs pushing open borders that were massively disproportionately funded by Jews like George Soros and um Zuckerberg and people like that that are really pushing for this open border melting pot idea. And he also talked about um you know, well, obviously in the text messages he talked about leaving supporting Israel.

And I figured that was coming because Charlie Kirk liked the open debates. And he likes showing up and it's really hard to defend Israel. It's a very hard defense. I mean, really all you have is like you can point to some of the Old Testament stuff and say that, you know, he wasn't really talking about, you know, Abraham. He's talking about, you know, the country of Israel today with Netanyahu running it. You know what I mean?

Like it's just such a stretch. >> [panting] >> And if you And now that the Talmud has been translated and everybody can read it, the passages are out there. It's really damning. Um and it's also hard to defend a religion that says that your Lord and Savior is burning in hell in human [ __ ] Or I guess there's an argument in there, you know, not not all the Talmudic rabbis say that. There's an argument. Some say that he's burning in semen and some say that he's burning in [ __ ] But the net effect is he's in hell burning in something bad.

Um and that his mother was a [ __ ] Virgin Mary. So, I find it difficult as a Christian to kind of like wrap your head around how you def- And also does the people that killed Christ as well. And I believe the covenant was broken in the New Testament. So, um are you in that we should just send our tax dollars over there to fund a foreign country to help kill Palestinians? Cuz you also knew that, too. He talked about that how there was a stand down order, how Israel is like the size of New Jersey, it's like the most heavily surveilled, there's snipers everywhere, like there's no way that this happened without them knowing and taking 6 hours to respond and then when they did respond, killing their own citizens.

Like, if you understand what's going It's like it's literally indefensible. I mean, you could defend it against an idiot that doesn't know. But you're not going to be able to defend it against somebody that's like actually done the research. Like I would have smoked him in a debate. Smoked him. He wouldn't have had a prayer. And I'm not like a geopolitical guy, you know, I don't I don't like go to colleges and do debates all the time, but I would have wrecked him.

And I think he recognized that he was going to lose his base if he continued with this, and that's why a lot of people flipped on it, you know? Um Piers Morgan even flipped, you know, it's just it's They know it's a losing battle. And if they lose their base, it doesn't matter if the network likes them. If they don't have an audience, then they're [ __ ] irrelevant and they're out of a job. So, there's a self-preservation mechanism that kicks in there, and that's what happened with Piers.

It's not like he had some like moral alignment with the truth. He just realized that he was going to lose his base, and then he's going to be out of a [ __ ] job. And whether or not he pleased, uh, you know, the people that owned his studio or not, like they weren't going to keep him around if nobody's listening to him. So, Charlie was going to get there. I mean, he said it in the texts. And so, what better time to kill somebody than before they change their mind.

I mean, like imagine if he came out and said, you know, Israel is, you know, not an ally of the United States, we should not be supporting them. They couldn't kill him then, cuz it'd look really [ __ ] bad. And the other thing that he was pretty adamant about and talked to Trump about numerous times that we shouldn't be [ __ ] going to war with Iran. And Eric Coor knew that, and she's pushing for the war in Iran. So, the least she could do for her husband's legacy is not go against the thing that was like one of the most important things to him, cuz he personally talked to Trump about this on numerous occasions.

So. >> It's interesting. It seems like one of the only ways to gauge some sort of truth, like hitting on some sort of truth, is if you get negative pushback for it. Like if you say one thing in, I don't know, your Instagram gets deleted. You say one thing a post gets taken down. You say one thing and I don't know, someone comes to your house with a crossbow. Like like what have been the things that you have said or talked about that you've gotten particular amounts of backlash for? >> Well, I think the [ __ ] Israel was probably uh one of my early aggressive stances on this issue and it got me kicked off the board of my company.

My business manager tried to extort me. Um my lawyer told me that I had to, you know, take it down. She tried to get me to step down off my company. She tried to have me issue an apology, walk it back. I had tons of my Jewish friends call me and try and, you know, change my mind and um that's actually, you know, the funny thing is I wasn't like anti-Jewish supremacy or I wasn't like one of these, you know, it was like a much more narrow issue initially.

It was just like [ __ ] Israel and [ __ ] or supportive Israel like what are we doing? That was where this started. And when I saw how many Jews were just blindly supportive of Israel, I guess not blindly. Like for them, for a Jew it's very different. Like you have to understand, they can just same day go get a passport. They can be an Israeli citizen. They can go diddle a little 14-year-old boy in town and flee to Israel and Israel won't send him back.

So they basically have like a get out of jail free card for pedophilia or whatever [ __ ] up things they want to do. And so they just have a baked-in foreign allegiance to this country that they've also been told is like the Jewish homeland or whatever this narrative is. Like I don't think like every Jew is like nefarious or in on this, obviously. Um there's plenty of of of good Jews out there, plenty of them that aren't in on this fix, aren't part of the cabal, whatever.

But they are generally tribal and um what I've found is that their religion is basically at odds with Christianity and I didn't know that. They look at Christians as idol worshipers and their Talmud says that you should kill idol worshipers and that's why they spit on Christians in Israel. So, I was unaware of a lot of this, but when you start like understanding and like it's okay for them to lie, cheat, and steal from Gentiles, then it's like, "Okay, now it kind of makes sense." I mean, the whole the whole like word Jew me is synonymous with like [ __ ] me over.

It's like, you know, nobody says like, "Don't Muslim me." or "Don't Christian me." And so, I don't think that's an accident. Um, and people get stereotypes for a reason. Not always true, but I think there's some truth in most stereotypes, especially ones that have existed for thousands of years. And I think it's important that we talk about this stuff and not just be [ __ ] silenced all the time because they have no problem talking about all the negative things about Muslims and how Muslims are, you know, according to Randy Fine, lower than dogs and, you know, we should basically just kill them all and whatever.

And yeah, that seems to be fine. Bill Maher says on national television, "Islam is the mother lode of bad ideas." like just basically insulting 2 billion people. But if you were to say something bad about Jews, God help you. You know, these poor struggling victims that are like more than 50% of the billionaires in the United States and crushing everything and 90-something percent of Hollywood and running the media and whatever.

Like, and you're anti-Semitic. >> See, this is the part that confuses me. Uh, I am I have a guess at the answer to it, but like people make the claim Jews are in positions of power, they're running everything, Israel is a super powerful nation. In game theory terms, wouldn't it make sense for America to want to have them as an ally? But I'm guessing your view of it is that the relationship is more parasitic than like synergy there, you know? >> Well, yeah, I mean they're sucking the money out of the economy.

They're not putting it back in. They're funneling out to a foreign country. We're fighting foreign wars for the benefit of that country. Um half of our national debt can be chalked up for our support of Israel and wars fought for Israel. >> But where does that money go? >> Well, you could Well, according to Brown University, $8 trillion went to the Iraq war, which was fought on behalf of Israel. Netanyahu came and lobbied and testified in front of Congress that they had weapons of mass destruction, which they absolutely did not.

He talked about numerous times how if we toppled the regime, it will have positive reverberations throughout the region. You remember those interviews? Um and so, yeah, I mean that is a result of their influence, their bad information, which we've somehow received a lot of. Um and so, yeah, when you can chalk up half of your national debt, $20 trillion, cuz you have to add the compounding interest. None of the money that we gave them we had just sitting around.

That was all money that we borrowed. We've been in debt for a long time. And so, yeah, and you have to add the compounding interest to that $8 trillion that's now flushed down the toilet with no benefit. And uh yeah, I would say that they are not our greatest ally. >> Now, like you said, while most people are just talking about these kinds of issues now, and you've even noted that some people talk about it as a trend or to simply make money.

Last month you tweeted, quote, "I'm going to run against fat [ __ ] Randy Fine for Congress." Dan, you're 45, worth hundreds of millions of dollars. You could spend your life on a beach, not have to do any of this. Instead, you're running for Congress against a guy Trump endorsed three times. What the [ __ ] wrong with you? >> Well, I've been blessed, man. I've um I've gotten everything I ever wanted, you know, like beyond measure.

So, I don't know. I think what I came to realize is that hedonism didn't really give me long-term happiness. It was short pleasure spikes, which were fun. I will not tell you they weren't. Um but it's fleeting, you know? Kind of like I mean, example I always give is like if I gave you heroin right now, you'd feel good. You'd feel great, you know? But that wouldn't be the answer, you know? Like that's not a positive thing.

That's how I look at hedonism and pleasure seeking. It will be fun. You will have a good time [ __ ] hot girls and driving fast cars and doing all that [ __ ] But eventually you get bored of it. Um and that's what I found is that the things that made me happiest was like I don't know, helping other people, hanging out with my friends, like doing more stuff that, you know, funny thing is didn't really cost much money.

And they always told me that as a kid. I was like, "Yeah, yeah, whatever, dude." Like [ __ ] you. Like give me the money. >> [laughter] >> Um but I don't know, man. I like I I'm telling I really think that our country is like at a crossroads right now. Like I think if we don't take back control of this thing, I think we are [ __ ] like beyond [ __ ] I think we're just going to be like slaves to Jewish supremacy. With Palantir, with the surveillance, with this digital currency, all this stuff, like the money's being sucked out of this economy.

Like Americans today are worse off than they were 50 years ago. That's never happened before. Like every 50 years usually you're like better. And we've had all this technological innovation. Like this cell phone right here, if I had that 20 years ago, like I'd rule the world, you know? Like that was more powerful than any like supercomputer, whatever. And so we have all this technology. Like basic needs should be met.

The average person should be doing good, but like Americans are in debt, like really bad. Um and we don't have health care, we've got, you know, homelessness, we've got all these problems. And uh, it's unnecessary. Like I don't think people understand how good the world would be if our government functioned for the people and not for the people that were running it. And that's what we have right now. We have the government basically this big, bloated, inefficient organization that is helping to funnel money from US citizens into corrupt people's pockets.

That's what it is. Like that's where we're at right now is like the government, the country is not functioning for the best interest of the people. And so if we don't have people that get into office and fix this, um, then we're going to have more problems. I mean, in in Florida right now, they passed anti-semitism laws. There's a girl facing 15 years right now for making a joke in a group text about Netanyahu and coincidence, judge is Jewish, you know, she let off some [ __ ] violent offender who just went out and re-offended.

Um, but yet now she wants to throw the book at this girl that made a joke in a group chat because it was against Netanyahu. And so that's a [ __ ] problem. Randy Fine passed anti-semitism laws in Florida. If you pass out flyers, you get 5 years in jail. But meanwhile, he can call for the genocide of Muslims. He can say that he wants the streets to run with their blood. He can say that they're lower than dogs. He can advocate for nuclear weapons used on a predominantly woman and child population.

But yet, if you pass out flyers talking about Jewish overrepresentation in the media, they'll throw you in jail for 5 years. It's a [ __ ] problem. >> Randy Fine, uh, he's a Jewish Congressman. He calls himself the Hebrew Hammer. What do you think America should know about the guy you're running against for Congress, Randy Fine? >> Well, he cares more about being Jewish and he cares more about Israel than he does America.

And you can see it in his office. He's got an Israeli flag flying higher than the US flag, which is illegal. Um but he doesn't give a [ __ ] you know, and he just tells his fanbase whatever they want to hear, his audience, you know, "Oh, we're going to go deport some illegals and you know, I'm endorsed by Trump and you know, whatever Trump says, we're going to go free those Iranians, right? Back into the [ __ ] Stone Age when we bomb them and you know, we got to do It's just all [ __ ] Like everything that he says is complete unadulterated [ __ ] And he is putting a foreign nation before America just like almost the entire rest of our Congress is, except for Massie and maybe a couple others.

Um and uh and and Americans are paying for that. And I think they're getting [ __ ] wise to this because if you see the comments, you know, and I'm getting them from liberal women and people that wouldn't normally have otherwise supported me. They all know. The people know and so now it's just a You know, I just feel like people have a frustration. Like everybody knows we're getting [ __ ] over. Everybody knows that the government's not operating in our best interest.

Everybody knows that we shouldn't be funding this genocide. Everybody knows that we shouldn't be sending hundreds of billions of dollars. I mean, this current war is costing us $500 million a dollars a day. Like I don't think people understand how much money that it like it just it gets lost. Like oh, 100 billion, you know, 300 billion, whatever like these numbers, they they're just thrown around so much that they kind of like lose their potency.

This is you know, this is our tax dollars. This is [ __ ] going to a foreign country and we get no benefit. Like if you wanted to summarize it, we're spending our money to kill foreign foreign random people, kids, whatever. I mean, the first thing we did is bomb a children's school or hit it with actually not not bombs, it's much worse. It was precision-guided Tomahawk missiles to triple tap this school. But that's what we're doing.

We're spending our tax dollars to murder women, children, Muslims, whatever instead of helping Americans. Like just think about that because that's what's happening right now. We're literally spending our taxes to kill foreigners instead of help Americans. >> And what's all this for? >> It's for the support of Israel, for the benefit of Israel. For Jewish greed. They want more [ __ ] land. Like that's what this is about.

They literally want the greater Israel project. That's why they keep bombing their neighbors. That's why they keep [ __ ] bombing Lebanon. You know, like this is not this is not about saving some Iranians. This isn't about the eight AI-generated Iranian girls that we're supposedly trying to save. It's all [ __ ] Like there wasn't 50,000 Iranian civilians killed by the government. That was a complete [ __ ] lie. You know, everything they're telling us is complete [ __ ] Like this story of like we're going there to like liberate them and free them.

Meanwhile like two days later Trump talks about how he's going to bomb them into the Stone Age and threatens to use nuclear weapons. Like that would absolutely destroy the country. That'll kill tens of millions of citizens. And yet we're in there on this false premise of we're trying to help them and liberate liberate them from [ __ ] what, you know? Like to what to do what? To send them back to the Stone Age? To murder their families?

Like And so yeah, I just I I think it's so obvious. I mean, Israel just keeps grabbing more land. >> If you had to guess what the end game is, like what's Israel's end game over the next 5-10 years? >> Well, there's two things. There's, you know, like I just said, the greater Israel project. They want, you know, more land. Um I think that there is a sect in Israel that wants to bring about the end of times. And they have to in order to do that, they have to make the entire world hate them and attack them, which they're doing everything in their power to do.

It's almost like you just look at this and you're like, do they just want everybody to hate them? And the answer is some of them do. Some of them actually do because they believe that that's going to usher in the Antichrist. And we will have the end of times. And part of their prophecy is that they get 26 I think it's 26 or 2800 um [ __ ] slaves for each Jew, you know, and so they're like they're going to rule the world and we're going to serve them and >> Is this called Pax Judaica? >> Uh that might be a term for it.

I mean, there's different theories, right? But like part of their unequivocal belief, some of them, not all of them obviously, but there is a sect of of very religious Jews that believes that they need to have the entire world turn against them to usher in the Antichrist. There's like a whole part of it they have to build the third temple, the red heifers, you know, there's like a whole thing, but that's not [ __ ] That's like real. >> Let me ask you this, Stan.

You've been around a lot of extremely wealthy, powerful people. I mean, I see this theory of eschatology is basically the uh predictions of what happens at the end times playing out a lot within different groups and sects. Like do powerful people actually believe in like bringing the world toward an end time? And like can we kind of guess what's happening based off that? Like is that a real thing? >> Well, I mean, there's a lot of rich guys that have built bunkers recently, you know. >> Right. >> And we've had a lot of scientists just somehow start dropping dead.

I think it's like 14 now. Um there's strange things happening in the world. Like we are absolutely um headed for a paradigm shift, I believe. I don't know if it's going to be a good thing. I don't know if it's going to be a bad thing. Um I just know that people are waking up fast. You know, I wouldn't have predicted that people would be so aware, so quickly. >> What's with the scientist? >> I don't know. >> I don't even know what it's about. >> I don't either.

They're talking about they were all doing some like anti-gravity research and something tiny with aliens I guess basically. The anti-gravity research would probably be in propulsion. So, um you know, maybe space travel. I don't know. I don't really have much of a theory, but there's something going on, right? Like 14 people don't It was like very strange circumstances, right? Like the guy one of the guys leaves the house or actually I think it was multiple guys leave the house without a cell phone, only took their gun and they just like completely vanished.

I don't know, just very strange [ __ ] going on. And then some of them like we're literally talking, you know, and saying that they weren't suicidal and then suddenly somehow committed suicide. I don't know. Very strange. Not normal circumstances. >> I guess when it comes to all this, like what's the one thing that you, Dan, are not allowed to say? Like is there anything that you think would get this whole podcast deleted? >> Um go back in time about 6 months and everything >> [laughter] >> I said it would have got your podcast deleted.

I think the Overton window has moved a lot. Um I think that I have some part in that as well. Um I think what I said on Piers Morgan 2 years ago was something that had like never really been said on a major platform ever. And it took them about 5 months to release that. Um and I feel like there was a shift there. I'm not like saying that it was obviously like all me or whatever, but the way people approach Piers after that, I mean he had some girl on there like, you know, basically acknowledging that she was a full-on racist and just like people kind of like leaning in to their beliefs.

Um and then also people just talking about this stuff. You know, it's definitely the times are changing massively. And the the the speed at which everybody's waking up is I think the biggest thing that's shocking me. Cuz I didn't think they could do it. Like I didn't think everybody would figure it out. I thought it was a losing battle. It was just like kind of like a suicide mission, honestly. At initially it was I felt like it was.

Like I didn't think that we could win. I felt like I don't know. It was like I was going to get [ __ ] up for it. There was I don't know. It was kind of like Yeah, it was probably not a wise decision based on everything that I knew and whatever, but sometimes you just got to say what the [ __ ] you know? >> I guess when it comes to your run for Congress, uh like what impact do you think that will have? And like what what's your mission exactly?

Like is your goal to kind of inspire other influencers to run in important areas? >> Not necessarily influencers. I want like real Americans. I want people that are doing this because they want to help the country. Um I think the problem with most influencers today is they're worried about making money and clicks and sensationalism and whatever. You know, people are going to have to stand up and actually run and get into government and do something about this.

And so one of my goals with this is that if I win I think it'll change the message of what is run on in 2028. I think there'll be a lot more people that are going to want to run on this message and that I think AIPAC is going to start to be a social pariah where if you are taking money from AIPAC, that's almost like a negative endorsement. And if that's the case, then their money can't buy elections anymore. Right now, you can buy an election.

Like you can just spend enough money and knock on enough doors, like you'll just win. And so, there's that. I think we need to have a lot more people run for Congress that aren't running for their own personal benefit, and I think we need to get a president in that's going to actually [ __ ] clean house. And I think people are going to be radical enough Um I've said this before, and I know this is going to sound crazy, but people are going to want her in 2 years.

Like they're going to want something super [ __ ] radical cuz they're pissed off. Nothing they're doing matters. Their politicians on the left and the right don't give a [ __ ] You know, all the all the leftists are super against Israel, but all the people that they elected that are supposedly like super leftist Democrats are all still voting to send money to Israel. So, when they see this, and you know, George Galloway said two cheeks of the same ass, you know, they're both clapping together, and it's true.

Like it doesn't matter Republican or Democrat, they're both when it comes to these very important issues doing the same thing. Can't agree on anything else, but that they can. And so, I think people are going to be [ __ ] really tired of that. And also like these [ __ ] like Alex Karp and [ __ ] Sam Altman, you know, it's they're just so [ __ ] unlikable, and they're talking about surveilling us, they're talking about monitoring us, they want to censor us, they want to [ __ ] I like I think people are going to be really [ __ ] tired of this Jewish supremacy problem that we have, and they're going to want a solution.

And I don't think any traditional politician is going to give them even a semblance of hope of what they want, which is going to be America taken back by Americans to function for Americans. So, I think if I can win this election it will shape the message going into 2028, which I think is very important. That genuinely makes a lot of sense. >> Yeah. I guess for anyone who maybe doesn't have trust in you that you're actually going to kind of push this message forward, shift the Overton window.

Um Just people see a lot of these headlines and they don't really understand like the nuances of some of the events of your life. Like what controversy in your career do you think people misunderstand the most? >> All of it. I think all of the negative press that I've gotten um when explained uh is actually a positive. Um you know, you look at a lot of the negative headlines that I got and when you give the explanation of what actually happened um I didn't address it.

So, the news media would just run this crazy stuff and I would get all these people that just believed it, right? Like the headline, I think it was like 5 years ago you know, Dan Bilzerian went broke and he's uh you know, he put $50 million on his credit card and he's renting this house and like all this [ __ ] And it's like I I was worth $375 million at the time and the company did $100 million in vape sales that year alone and I think I spent maybe like $12 million on marketing total and I developed a global brand.

We've done over half a billion dollars in sales just in South America alone. Um and so clearly the marketing was effective. You know, you look at how much Red Bull and Monster and all these other companies spend on marketing. It's like hundreds of millions of dollars. I spent 15 and I created a global brand in 1 year. And so, I was just you know, it was it was during COVID and I was writing my book and I was just seeing these headlines.

It was just like I was just laughing. I was like surely idiots can't believe this and like people were actually believing it. >> Who is putting out this stuff against you? >> YouTube people, you know, and that's why like I didn't want to address it because I didn't want to like drive them more traffic because I mean my audi- I had 60 million plus followers and I'm not going to like address just absolute nonsense. Um I guess I should have, you know, but at the time I'm just like, "No, there's no way people are going to believe this.

This is stupid." Like I I own a jet. I've got, you know, a [ __ ] $25 million house. Like W- W- What are we talking Like it's just I don't know. It was just so crazy to me the idea that people would believe this [ __ ] Um, but I we'd fired the president. Um, and he wanted to get fired because we were appointing somebody as CEO and he thought he was going to get that spot. And so he basically just like didn't show up to meetings and he was super rude to the guy that was becoming the CEO.

And so we had to fire him, but he had this whole like whistleblower thing ready. Went to TMZ. And uh and sued the company and sued me and whatever. And so And people just like believe this ridiculous headline. Um Yeah, that was a crazy one. Then um I don't know. I mean there's so many. Like Dan Bilzerian throws a porn star off the roof. That was like a big headline. Like I'm just throwing girls off the roof, you know.

It's like for a Hustler photo shoot. They asked me to do it. The girl volunteered, you know, and she like barely clipped her foot because she held onto my shirt. She [ __ ] up. And uh and so like in context it's obviously like not a bad thing. And then another one was like This was a really crazy one. I was at the biggest mass shooting in US history. >> In Vegas, right? >> Yeah, and there was like this And I refused to do the interviews afterwards.

I didn't really want to like talk about it. Um, and so this idiot Marine that had somehow won the Medal of Honor got on there and he's like, "Oh, Dan was running away. He's a coward." And like they actually ran that story. Which is so [ __ ] crazy cuz I actually have the video like the the 6-minute video is like 5 and 1/2 minutes. A friend of mine is a surf photographer. He actually like recorded the whole thing. And like the whole shooting was like 9 minutes.

I think he has like 6 minutes of it. And I actually went The first thing I did is I went into a cop car and I can I can show you the video. Went into cop car for like a minute trying to get this gun because it was locked in there and I couldn't get this [ __ ] gun. And thankfully, I didn't, right? Cuz if I'm walking around uh shooting with a gun and I'm not in uniform, probably would have shot me. So, thankfully, I didn't get it.

But I thought there was uh somebody in the crowd walking around with a [ __ ] gun. So, then I ran towards the Mandalay. And then that was the next headline. He's like, "Oh, damn. Bilzerian, this idiot, he asked a cop for a gun and whatever." And it's like, I was a cop at the time. I'd been a cop, you know, for 3 years. I had literally 3 days prior to that kicked the [ __ ] door off the hinges of several murder warrants in [ __ ] New Mexico with the US Marshals.

So, I was like actually doing like real [ __ ] And so, I showed him my police ID. I told him that I was a cop. And so, and he had two guns on him. And we're in the middle of a mass shooting. So, to me, like that doesn't seem like a ridiculous And he was running away. He's like fleeing the scene. So, I'm like, "Hey, give me a [ __ ] gun." >> Right. >> I get why he wouldn't. But like it's in context, it's not a crazy thing for me to ask for a gun.

We're being shot at. He's running away. He has two guns. And I'm a [ __ ] cop. >> Yeah. >> It sounds ridiculous until you hear he had two guns. Then it's like, yeah, totally makes sense. >> Yeah, I'm not like, "Hey, give me your only gun." He had a [ __ ] AR and he had a [ __ ] pistol. So, I'm like, "Hey, you know, give me a gun or whatever." Um like I said, man, when you're being [ __ ] shot at with with with [ __ ] belt-fed weapons, you know, like your My first instinct is like get a [ __ ] gun, right? >> The one I haven't heard you address yet, maybe I missed an interview where you spoke about it, was when the Epstein files dropped, there was a photo of you and Post Malone that you'd posted to Facebook in 2018.

Why were you in the Epstein files? >> There was actually a few. So, I guess Epstein was a fan. And there was a text where he's like talking and says something about like nobody's like stunting on you like Dan Bilzerian. I think somebody sent that to him. Or I don't know. There was like Apparently, he was sending my photos and photos of me were being sent to him. Um and yeah, the the photos that are in the files are ones that I posted on my social media.

Like one is me with a trophy on a girl's ass in Thailand and she was like I don't know 28, you know, very famous model and like the girls in the photo with Post Malone they're like 27, one is 30 I think, you know, [laughter] it's actually some of the older girls we hung out with and they somehow they like redacted the girls. It's just like weird cuz they were on my they're still on my feed, you know. Um and so yeah, but >> Who do you think included that in there? >> Well, that's the thing is I think it was any communication that he had.

So if he was talking about me to his friends or his friends were talking about me to him, um then I'm in the files, right? Does that mean that I went to the island now? Like I've never been to the island. Um but yeah, they put those in there. I I think maybe it was, you know, also a method to potentially distract, I don't know, you know. Um >> Who do you think Epstein was? >> I think he was a Mossad agent. Um there's also the theory that he was kind of the money guy behind some really rich people. >> [clears throat] >> Um I think he was an arms dealer before that.

Um maybe he was just getting the uh the blackmail for himself. Um but Congress passed a law saying that they have to release the files. It's been 4 months. They haven't released the files. They're breaking the law. They're obviously actively covering up. They've redacted 50,000 files. Um we've seen some where Trump is unequivocally implicated in there. There's women that are accusing him of and and the limo driver that said that he heard such horrific stuff that he wanted to pull over the limo and beat the [ __ ] out of Trump.

I mean, these are just like weird things that people just randomly go to the FBI and say. Like it's one thing if they're suing him civilly, right? And they just want a money grab, but this is like people going to the FBI to try and criminally prosecute him. And this is like a 13-year-old girl saying that he tried to make her give him a [ __ ] I think it was and he hit her and cuz she bit him or something like that. And then there's another girl that accused him that her head got blown off in a situation where like absolutely couldn't have been a a suicide and they ruled it a suicide.

You know, there's just been like some very strange stuff going on. Um he's in there a ton. He's clearly like hung out with Epstein, friends with Epstein, friends with a bunch of people that were with Epstein. Like it was 89 and a half percent of the people on the Epstein list that were like majorly in the files and implicated were all Jewish. Um you know, Howard Lutnick, all these people. Les Wexner, you know, you go down the list and no investigations, no prosecutions.

I mean, it seems like the only people they're going after are Christian guys. Like Bill Gates got questioned cuz he got chlamydia from a hooker and then Prince Andrew, I think they went after him. It's like but they they literally I don't think they've gone after a single Jewish person. It's like almost all Jews. And if you look at what they say in there, they talk about it. Like [ __ ] that he says. Like this is how the Jew makes money.

Talking about like [ __ ] and you know, we don't want to have any [ __ ] at this event. Like just like talking [ __ ] about Gentiles. And uh I think it's very telling. You know, I think it's very telling that we've killed more squirrels than we've arrested Epstein clients. You know, the government I think has their priorities way [ __ ] off. >> I would ask you uh maybe what you're surprised that some influencers haven't been talking about but I think we can do it in a more interesting way.

Um I'm going to give you a name of someone and I just want you to give me one word to describe them. Ben Shapiro. >> Mossad. >> Andrew Tate. >> Man. Ah. I mean, I've I've been friendly with Andrew. I've met him. Um I like Andrew. I don't want to like talk negatively about him cuz we've had, you know, good interactions. He's always been a gentleman with me. Um I will say I I I don't agree with uh him walking back the uh the I don't know what you want to call it, the hell or incident in the club or whatever that was.

Um I think it's one of those things where if you're going to go out with that group of people, you're going to get the benefit of, you know, the clout and the exposure, then I think you have to take the bad with the good. Um I don't think you can escape going to them. I look at it kind of like a, you know, a girl that I [ __ ] and then tagged her on Instagram, she got a bunch of followers, and then her boyfriend got upset, and after she got 100,000 followers, she asked me to delete the photo, you know, or untag or whatever.

It's kind of like, you know? >> [laughter] >> Like if you're going to get the exposure, if you're going to go, you're going to get the clout, and you're going to do it, you know, obviously like if you organize the [ __ ] Avengers of anti-Semites, you're going to get some attention, and if you show up at Miami Jew-run clubs, and you play a [ __ ] song, >> [laughter] >> you know, and everybody's live-streaming their [ __ ] and they're putting it on their [ __ ] gay little social media channels, like obviously like this is going to cause commotion, you have to know that.

And so, if your explanation is that you're in a criminal lawsuit, which is, you know, that's legitimate, but then I just like wouldn't go. I just wouldn't I wouldn't put myself in that situation if I'm trying to stay under the radar. Like I'm not going to hang out with like Nick Fuentes and [ __ ] Myron Gaines and all these like, you know, I I like, you know, like I love Myron. He's a wild [ __ ] dude, you know, like Yeah, I mean, like I said, I, you know, but he's done a lot of good, I think, for a, you know, combating the attack on masculinity.

Um I like a lot of his stances. I I Yeah. That's all I have to say. >> Yeah, I think at the very least, maybe he was surprised that the song was played, but I I do know what you're saying that like if you play those types of games, you can expect some things like that to happen. Um >> I'm just a double down type of [ __ ] you know? >> Right. >> Like if I'm going to do it, I'm going to take ownership of it. I'm not going to apologize for it.

And uh Piers Morgan. The first thing that comes to mind is [ __ ] but I think a better disc- like He's He's disingenuous. I think that's more important. You know, like he he knows what's going on. Like he he um he has had a plethora of guests on his show that very articulated or very well explained and articulated what was going on in Palestine. He knew what was going on. Like he understood fully because he had super educated people on there.

And I think that I guess a part of his journalism I have to give him credit for this. I will say. I'm with you TMZ guys. If you grill both sides, then I can't really talk [ __ ] You know, because he will grill both sides, but he definitely definitely defended Israel long long after he knew that that was not correct. And he had like a massively disproportionate amount of Jewish guests on there that would parrot this [ __ ] about Israel.

Um but you know, to his credit, I have seen him more recently grill those people. Now, is he doing it out of morality? I don't think so. I think he's doing it because that's where the entire [ __ ] world is and that's what everybody wants to see and that's what's going to get him numbers and that's what's going to make him more money and that's going to what's going to make his fans probably not hate him as much. Um So, anyways, yeah. >> Kanye. >> Oh man, what a [ __ ] flip-flopper.

You know the way I describe Kanye is like a 14-year-old boy, actually no, a 4-year-old boy that has pots and pans and just bangs them around to get attention. Which is very strange for a guy that's like one of the most famous people in the world. It's like one day he's [ __ ] or then the next day he's a clansman or then the next day he's got his wife butt naked running around the [ __ ] world and then he's posting porn.

Like he is like a little kid that needs a ton of attention and he'll do anything to get it. Um that being said, I think he is, you know, a pretty talented artist and I I do respect some of his like early stances, but he totally doubled back, he apologized, kissed the ring. You know the funny thing is they still [ __ ] him. They still [ __ ] him. He did the gay little apology thing, saw the rabbis, you know, whatever, completely [ __ ] folded.

And they still [ __ ] him. You know, and I think that's a good lesson for people is like, you know, you capitulate and it doesn't save you. You bend the knee, you apologize, you do all the right things and they'll still [ __ ] you. >> Nick Fuentes. >> [laughter] >> Oh man, you're really trying to [ __ ] stir the pot. Um I >> [sighs] >> I don't want to boil it down to one word. If I'm going to talk about him, I think I need to give the whole picture because I do think that he was one of the early pioneers of this stuff and I do have respect for him.

He's definitely an intelligent guy, for sure. >> I'd say so. >> Yeah, I guess um my criticism of him would be that I think it's so obvious what the problem is. And he went on a bunch of big platforms and didn't really use any of them to talk about the [ __ ] Jewish supremacy problem that we all know about. And And maybe that's because he's talked about it so much that he's kind of bored of it. Cuz one of the downsides of doing four or five hours of content every [ __ ] week and or maybe a day, I don't know what how long it shows are, but he's like literally talking to a camera every day all day.

It's like it would be boring to talk about this [ __ ] over and over and over again. So, I think a part of doing too much content is that you get bored talking about the real issues and now you have to go off on these tangents and focus on [ __ ] that actually isn't really that [ __ ] important, you know, or stuff that's like just contrary to what you even believe just to get shock value because the stuff that you've been saying that traditionally got shock value is now mainstream.

So, now we got to like, you know, talk about why Epstein was a good guy and Stalin was good and like some crazy [ __ ] that I just obviously really disagree with and Um, there were some it was just like a kind of like a a steady stream of bad takes that I didn't understand. Um, you know, saying that Epstein like all the girls were like 17 and it wasn't that big a deal. You know, like and these are children. There's like horrific [ __ ] in these files.

And so to just kind of like say that was, you know, oh, it's some like barely legal girl. It's just not true at all. Um, and then I disagreed with him on the Charlie Kirk thing. He said there was a 0% chance that, you know, Israel's behind that. I'm not saying that it was for sure Israel or I even think that that's, you know, like the most probable possibility, but to say that it's 0%, I think it's crazy. In the beginning of this thing, like the big important thing was that everybody kind of like woke up to this Jewish supremacy problem and nobody wanted to talk about it.

Like he was one of the people that was like really talking about it. Like if we if if we're really being honest about like what is selling out, selling out would be taking the [ __ ] money, taking the fame, you know, not doing the right thing or whatever. And I don't know. Like I'm in this for [ __ ] pure reason. I've lost a shitload of money for this. I haven't gotten anything. I don't have a [ __ ] little podcast. I'm not doing any of this gay streaming [ __ ] or whatever.

I make zero dollars. In fact, it's cost me a fuckload of money. So, I guess I have a little bit of animosity cuz I thought we were kind of like all on the same team championing truth and like waking people the [ __ ] up. And I thought like the whole goal was like trying to fix this problem. And and now it seems like everybody's just trying to like cash in on it. Um which is whatever. Like I guess the net effect is people people woke up to this which was important, you know, which is one of the reasons why I was trying to like get them to stop fighting. >> An issue you made me realize is that if you dig into truth, like sure you have to dig a little bit past what you see on Fox News, CNN, and then go a little deeper, then go a little deeper.

Maybe you arrive at some form of objective truth, but you can keep digging and get distracted and not really know what's real. And it seems like the issue with, I don't know, people who go down these rabbit holes, like individuals and then also people who make content about it is like from your view, what was needed to be said was said, but then they just distracted their audience so their audience didn't care about the issue anymore. >> Well, a part of it is that you get rewarded for sensationalism. >> Right.

Yeah. >> Like it doesn't matter if it's true, if it's crazy, if it gets clicks, if it gets people's eyeballs. And I think that's the problem with just media in general today that it's not focused on what is true, it's focused on what is going to get people's attention, which is why you see all this race baiting [ __ ] which is why like everything is like um rage bait, whatever. And the problem with that is that it just And there's no accountability, too.

Like if the news just publishes something that's completely [ __ ] untrue, especially if it's about a celebrity, the best you get is a retraction on the [ __ ] eighth page, you know, like 4 weeks later when nobody gives a [ __ ] anymore. There's no accountability. Um and I think that needs to change. That's actually one of the things that I want to change when I'm in office is like have some actual accountability for the media and have accountability for politicians.

Like if you knowingly lie to the public as a politician, you should be able to, you know, be prosecuted for that. Like if you lie, if you commit fraud and get elected under false pretenses and you rug pull your audience, like there should be accountability for that. And with the media as well, if you knowingly publish something about someone or a business or whatever that you know isn't true and you publish it anyways cuz you want to get clicks, like you should be able to get your [ __ ] ass sued off for that.

You know, and I don't think we have that today. >> Randy Fine, one word. >> Well, I mean, man, it's I got to choose between fat and Jew now. >> [laughter] >> Uh I guess one word is Jew. I mean, that's his whole identity. All he talks about on his Twitter is how he wants to like, you know, help Jewish people beat anti-Semitism and how he wants to help Israel [ __ ] kill every Muslim and whatever. Like that's his whole identity.

And um I'm like the antithesis of that [ __ ] guy. I think it should be America first. I think it should be Israel last and he is Israel first and America last. >> I guess just briefly, do you want kids? >> Oh, man. Huh. You got to be uh You got to be confident you're going to be around for long. I feel like there's a decent chance they [ __ ] kill my ass. Um Uh not at the moment. I feel like there's just too much to do and I have so little time. >> I'll ask you this then.

Uh If you have kids or just for people who Google your name uh and they find all this controversial, sensationalized media about you. Like, what's the most important thing you hope people remember about you that the internet won't tell them? >> That hedonism is not the answer. If I can impart one piece of knowledge, and I think I can do it from a place of massive expertise, um, that when you chase these things, when you chase money, power, [ __ ] whatever, there's never enough, and it will not make you happy, and you it's like trying to fill a black hole.

So, it's fun. I'm not going to tell people it's not, but it's just it's not the answer, and it's fleeting. Um, and it will unequivocally not lead you to happiness. >> And then last one, what makes you happy? >> Um, helping other people. I think that's like the hack, you know? Doing something nice for somebody else and seeing them, you know, light up about it. I think that's like a cheat for immediate happiness. Obviously, like having a family, spending time with your friends, like there's a lot of ways to generate happiness, and the nice thing about happiness opposed to pleasure is that it's not fleeting.

You can maintain happiness. Like every time you see your son, it's going to make you happy. Every time, you know, you're make your daughter happy, or you see her smile, like it's going to make you happy. There's no like fleeting piece of that, whereas, you know, when you have sex with a hot girl the first time, it's going to be, you know, you're going to have a pleasure spike, and then second time, and then eventually it has to be two girls, and then three girls, and then this and that, you know, it's like you're trying to chase that thing.

It's like a drug. It's like your first hit of heroin is going to make you feel better than your 15th. And eventually, you're going to have to do it not to feel like [ __ ] so I would tell people to focus on happiness because, like I said, you can sustain that. >> Right. Well, everyone, uh this has been your guest, Dan Bilzerian. This is the Jack Neil podcast. Where can people uh support your mission right now? >> Um bilzerianforcongress.com. >> Beautiful.

Awesome. See you guys.