Drake and Travis Scott Producer Allen Ritter Made Many Hits Without Being Signed | CEO Morning Show transcript

[Music] [Applause] oh [Music] yes perfect perfect what's going on game what's going on what's going on man let me see let me see let me see who's in the chat man i forgot to tap in yesterday morning chris 90s what's good man j17 jsool dx we got the whole gang in here man i see layno in here classy affidavit where yeah bro shout out to affidavit today man after david is the reason we got this interview going today yes affidavit is the reason we got alan ritter on the show today uh that man this isn't the first time affidavit had has come in clutch with the plug um so definitely shout out to him man um that's a slept on early gang member right there uh andy's here every time he's here every day man shout out to affidavit shout out to everyone that's here every day though at this point at this point i'm not even sure what episode we're on man um does anybody know anybody know what episode i know we're in the 60s or late 60s or 70s something like that um we got 55 producers in here already i just sent out the text to early gang a new twitch subscriber reuben tobally reuben toby shout out to everyone um subscribing on twitch go ahead and head on over and subscribe to our twitch because we are moments away days away moments away from starting some exclusive live streams on there um i know myself i'll be doing some exclusive live streams um this friday uh so we got tomorrow we got uh another interview today we got alan ritter man dope dope producer i'll get into that in just a second um tomorrow we got another producer na uh deb is lit he'll be here live on the show tomorrow for an interview and a live q a and then friday man friday's battle time friday uh we're doing beat reviews we're gonna be doing some giveaways i'm gonna give away cash prizes we're gonna give away some fl studio licenses what else are we giving away man gift cards for the site um yeah man friday's a big day friday we're doing uh we're doing it big and we got four noodles new whip up drum kit expansion dropping on friday as well too so look forward to that um a bunch of stuff dropping busy works was good was good was good okay busy you uh you you work with allan here let me get into let me get into allen man um pause let me uh let me get into explaining what um what uh what's good with allen ritter man um so dope producer right here man as uh as you see in the description you know really really most credibly known for working with drake travis scott kanye rihanna nikki um he's a grammy-winning producer he won his grammy with cardi b's invasion of privacy album oh man so many so many credits though it's it's it's crazy he's been featured on like damn near every drake album um damn near every travis album maybe every travis album actually i'm looking here i think yeah i think literally every travis album um he uh he uh has production credits with kanye he co-produced all day um and father stretched my hands part one on life of pablo a bunch of other crazy bunch of other crazy um credits though man chris brown wayne joyner lucas little nice x offset gonna metro uh jay belvin young thug 21. it's crazy man the list asap rocky uh ty dallas signs it's it's it's really this this this guy has a has an insane discography and it's uh more people definitely need to definitely need to be tuned in and know exactly what this guy is doing man so it's it's dope to have him on the show let me see let me see we got him in the waiting room yup yup he's in the waiting room if you guys want to go ahead and tap in for live q a um go ahead and join the waiting room man forgive me for being a little bit tired this morning too man i uh still used to getting back i'm still coming off of that west coast time so i was sleeping in like crazy i was sleeping until like eight or nine by the by the last day i was sleeping we're sleeping until like nine out there which is like 12 on the east coast time so getting back to waking up early for early gang i'm just i'm just messed up and i don't got nearly enough coffee i got enough coffee in my cup i just got to drink it um but yeah man uh let me let me see a little bit more about um alan ritterman definitely excited to hear his come up story um he also has some singles on his spotify page as a singer and artist himself and a producer um based in new york city and um yeah man definitely excited to hear his story so let's go ahead man let's blow the chat up man let's get some gym emoji some hundred emojis some flexed arms you know how we do it [Music] yo yo ellen ritter what's going on bro yeah it sounds like you're a little bit far away but it's not too bad yes sir we can hear you bro there we go now now we can see yes sir yes sir man what's going on man welcome uh welcome to the morning show man uh dope to have you on here man uh we're just going over your discography crazy discography bro most definitely most definitely man um so uh you're you're in new york city right now oh okay okay yeah i was just out there i think uh lane i hit you or later i hit you up to see if we could connect while i was out there for the podcast i most definitely hold hold on i don't think they could hear you now now they should be able to hear you yeah man um let me just double check yeah i love doing the in-person podcast um because it's dope to you know meet people in person and uh let me see here it's dope to you know connect in person and uh it's just a little bit different vibe but the morning show is dope too man because we get to um you know we get to do it from the uh from our own homes and then we also you know get to bring in people from the community for live q a at the end so um that's definitely always dope and and uh just you guys know man go ahead the zoom link is in the description um if you guys want to tap in uh let me know if you guys can hear you should be able to hear them now um they said dylan why you never learn i know right every every couple episodes i always mess up um but yeah bro um let's i definitely uh am hyped to hear your story bro and how uh you know how you fi started and got to all this success so if you could if you could man how uh how did you even get into making beats like uh how old were you how'd it happen the way i got into making these first of all um my father was like a producer okay so see so he had all like a lot of gear npcs chords like the chord uh three um three six three and six four or something like that so i was really big on producing like with he did like at first i first needed gospel so like he used to sing with my mom and we did gospel now after a while we started doing like r b hip-hop and i really got into that also the radio used to play a lot of it so for me to see him make that and listen to it on the radio it really like inspired me like i was like oh so it's possible for me to make it so he just let me use his equipment and show me like how to do things and that's where it really started dope dope so [ __ ] that that's like a that's like a dream come true for producers to just be born into some npcs and dope equipment and stuff right uh and so what was the uh so would you were you like trained on did he like teach you how to use all this stuff or did you just kind of like mess around with it yourself what was that no i wasn't trained um my first instrument for real is like the drums because uh we used to go to church a lot okay so i was like really into the drums and he used to be like right next to me on the keyboard so i used to watch him a lot and um at home not in the church he had his keyboard so i just used to go and mess around with the keyboard i used to kind of mimic what he did and just came up with my own style [Music] okay most definitely most definitely and then what was like that what was the transition like um to getting placements and stuff like did you once you started messing around with this stuff did you know like oh yeah this is it i'm gonna be a producer or did you uh you know go down another path or how did that look um now i just i kept i kept it up with the keyboard i thought i thought that the thing with the keyboard is you could like pick any sound you want right right well as far as what they gave you to choose so me and i could play certain things like i played the same thing with different sounds it really intrigued me to keep going because it would bring a different feeling so i kept going with the keyboard and then we got some fruity loops through the loops came out of nowhere changed my life i started with three weeks three and um so i've known it for a long time uh i started with two three and i just kept going got all the way to like who was nine ten i stopped at ten ten eleven and uh i met this dude in our high school and um we started a little group and we started producing from there and uh we was making beats and we put our beats on on myspace right right and uh my bro vino saw it and he hit me up he hit us up he was like yo you should come you know come on work with working on some music and we went up there and we just started i just started like you know working on music with him that's really where my sound developed developed like that was where i was like you know he's in new york um he's based he was yeah he was busy in new york at the time but he told us to come up to new jersey that's where he was working okay and now was he was he already like did he have placements and stuff at this point or was he just on the come up he was gonna come up at this time yeah i didn't at first honestly i didn't even know who rhinos was but then when i when i heard the music that he was doing i was like yo this kid is like very talented so we linked up and um he had a great relationship with boy wonder and i was just at that time i was in the midst of that whole situation and i guess he like really liked what i did with the keys so we clicked very well and one day boy one said just come to calabasas we went and history was made since then so up until that point like what kind of like coming up and growing up what kind of beast were you were you making because i know that was like you know more like i was very i'm very heavy heavy on r b that's what i really grew up on you know okay my uncle my aunts my um my father we used to always play like r b and hip-hop and when it came to hip-hop it was it was a different feeling it was very like you know gritty and i like that as well so i used to make a lot of that growing up and then as i got older you know i listened to different things and experiments and uh and the sound just became what it was so i know that um you know you uh you you had a regular job at one point i think you worked at house to correct is what you said on uh an interview yeah um so so so talk about that man well uh you know going from having a regular job were you did you have that job when when when you got that call to go out to calabasas or um i had that job when i was in when i was in the little group and you know we was making music but it wasn't really on a big scale yeah yeah but you know we was just making music because we love to make music i didn't we didn't know where it was going to take us it was just a passion at the time you know yeah and i was working at hollister with a couple of my friends and um i got a call while i was working and we was working overnight i recall while we was working and they told me um hey we're gonna um go up to jersey to work with uh with cassidy so i was like especially at that time yeah i said yeah it's time to quit this job i'm just gonna go i didn't even give him my two weeks i just left i just told him i said we out so right there it was like i made so many sacrifices because i stopped working period i wasn't making no money we just went to jersey and we just you know dug it out so so you kind of you kind of went off that uh that gut feeling that it was time to quit yeah i said you know what i'm tired of doing this 9-5 thing i'm i'm going to take a chance and see where this takes me and i did do you recommend that because we we get a lot of people on the show that are kind of in that same position you were in but maybe they don't they didn't get that call to go work with cassidy they might just be like you know i'm gonna go all in on selling beats online or i'm gonna just do whatever it takes what do you say i would say if the situation sounds right and and um you think it's time for you to like you know do things on your own and figure it out yourself then do so but if you don't and you're not sure then i would say don't do it don't do it yeah especially if you have responsibilities and uh you know like kids and and stuff like that yeah for sure not most definitely but that that's dope you know going off that that gut feeling so what did that was that your first time you know with with it um working with a big artist was that cassidy session that was my first time that was the first time i met somebody like you know in the industry that was established and had a crazy buzz going on so i was very excited at the time and i think did you say cassie or cassidy cassidy cassidy okay so i thought yeah but because i know you've also worked with cassie yeah yeah yeah okay so um so yeah i mean so so so you you go to that session and what was it like what's that first time being in session with a big artist i mean i was very nervous at the time but when it got when it came down to it like us playing music the fact that they even called us down meant that we had something that they weren't so i knew that we were good you know but it was still nerve-wracking meeting somebody like that on a scale like that at that time but when it came down to us playing music everything was real they was like yeah yeah this is good so let me know that i was on the right path and i was doing the right thing so from there on i was like okay i could do this for the rest of my life you know most definitely man so what were those what were those first couple of months uh like coming off of quitting the job were you struggling were you good we was we were good we were good at home as far as like as far as eating like here and there whenever the artists ate we ate just now but if we were hungry at the time like at in the moment yeah i have pride so i wouldn't really ask you know like oh this or not but we was out i'll speak for myself i was so excited i didn't even care about eating i was just there to to contribute to whatever was going on so it was it was a good time for me i had no complaints most definitely most definitely man and how long in between that until um you got that call to to go work with uh boy warner well after all the whole cassidy thing did you ever make it on the cassidy on a cassidy album yeah um a song called drama bass it was on a cache i think it's about it's called drama bass okay so that was like our first placement so after that i was working with vine responsibly and um he um he actually met boy wonder in a cassie session he already knew before when it was they but they never met they met on myspace gotcha and then we went to a session with cassidy in atlanta and boy one is actually on that cassidy album and vinyls and boy wonder had like uh words exchange words and they were like yeah just um keep in touch keep sending me stuff you're sending me stuff so years a couple years went by maybe two years went by constantly buyers were making music me and vines were working and he's sending wonder stuff so he kept that relationship going like two years it got to a point where wonder i guess he showed drake some of the stuff and george said yo tell these kids to come up about calabasas to see like what's going on with these kids because we like what we're in and they told us like two nights in advance before the flight are we available to come to calabasas and we were like yeah of course you went up there the greatest time ever we'll tell it to put us in the moment man was that your first time out the out in l.a yeah that was that was actually my personal about that way the first time we went up there we went to uh jake's house and um i'm not really i'm not really starched up but when i met drake for the first time when i saw him come in the room i was like oh drake he's good yo i act like i knew him you know he probably was like oh my god who's this kid right what what i gave him my ass i was so excited by the whole like everything the whole situation was like it was just so much for me so that's how i realized yeah you know yeah like you know i'm saying you treated us very like like regular people like it wasn't i never felt like there was no ego there it was just he was just treating us like we were good we were we did like 30 40 beats we're going wonder that night and everything turned out like beautiful so that what what what uh what was drake's most recent album at this time um i would say take care okay so he was he was working on oh nothing was the same and um he had this verse actually that he gave us we were in the room he had his verse and it was just his voice and he he played the verse and he said if i could do something to this today i'll put it out like in a few days so it's like an acapella that he played yeah it was an acapella of his voice so um they played it and all all we heard was no new friends no new friends no no no and i was like i know exactly what to do with this so i play some keys and he walked in the room he was like oh my god i love this so um boy wonder and vinyl's added to it it was originally something that 40 did and then he brought he brought it to us he wanted us to like we do and 40 still added to it but it turned out incredible that was like the placement that that was the placement that i was like oh my god this is it that's a huge placement right there that's an insane replacement so what's it what's it like um working with drake was it mostly like you guys cooking up beats and drake just kind of pokes his head in every now and then sees if he likes something that he hears yeah i mean um at that time he was heavily working yeah he was doing a lot so he would come in and out of the room and make sure to see what we're doing have a good little conversation with us see if we're good and then he'll go back to work and you know come back and talk to us and go back to work so also he had like multiple he has like multiple uh studios in this house yeah that's dope that's dope man uh you know recently it's kind of um from just from these interviews and stuff that i've been talking to people i'm really discovering the the importance of and the beauty of having like a space that you can just have creators pull up to whether you're a producer you're an artist or you're just someone that's just like hey i just i just love music and i want to invest in music i don't make it myself but i want i want to provide the the resources and the space for creatives to come do their thing um you know especially in like a city like la or atlanta um it's just really super necessary yeah um have you ever had like a like your own space like that where you uh had people pull up to um as far as like a studio yeah um now i've never had my own my own people but any time i went to a studio they already had their own situation where they had runners and they would just tell us to ask them if we need anything so whatever whatever you need they would come in the room every now and then and be like yo y'all good you don't need anything take care of us i hadn't i've always had like a good experience with them most definitely most definitely so yeah [ __ ] i mean so um you guys make no new friends that's insane how long were you out there in la um out there working that time um you had to be out there for like maybe two weeks maybe a week week a week to two weeks and i kid you not i did so much within that week to two weeks i think i probably grinded more than i ever have in my life during that time i feel like there was place there was there was beats that we did during that time that got placed later on so that shows like what's going on it was like kind of ahead of the time i guess you could say personally yeah i mean [ __ ] with all those factors you know i mean like getting flown out and get you know pulling up to drake's house and you know working you know with with uh a artist and [ __ ] like that i mean [ __ ] anyone should be inspired to to to put in their best work for sure right it was like we had to guarantee what was going on yeah i didn't want people to forget about it no most definitely so after you uh after you went home like what what was that like because now it's like that waiting period but you said drake you said drake put it out like you said the next week or did that not play out like that yeah you actually did you put it out the next week so we went home put on the radio and that's all you hear so uh what i was excited about hearing was my chords the chords that i played that was a big thing for me i was like yo so the way i put it in my mind i was like yo this is really real because a lot of people a lot of my friends didn't let you know they always suspected that you got to be you got to be connected and like from the beginning from since you were born you have to have been it was like planned out but they've seen my life be played out from where i came from to where i've gone so the fact that it was playing on the radio they were like yo this is this is weird this is a real thing like it can really happen right so that that right there was very exciting talk about life-changing quick damn yeah and especially uh a song like that like that's that's that's a classic right there that's crazy um so um so i mean so now so now what you know um the song comes out i assume now you're getting phone calls left and right to pull up to here pull up to there send beats here is that was that was that how it was well um after that yeah i mean it was a lot a lot easier for us to like do things in our industry but other artists yeah because i guess they say after you catch a name for yourself in the industry it's easier for people to to understand what you do how you do it and and they know that like basically that you established so from then on we just kept working with jake and then we started working with travis and then we started working with this person and that person it was just like a snowball effect right after that yeah that's crazy man um you had mentioned you had mentioned chords and i know you said you're big on r b can you uh can you give us some some some gems some go-to chords some some of that that always works for you um some go to chords progressive i got to listen to 90s r b 90s r b 90s r b that's what i listened to that's my thing that's that's what i grew up on so if i if i'm ever in the like a place where i really don't know what to do as far as rv i just go back and listen to like mary jake lodge or faith evans joe um or kelly and i just get in that zone and i just i just play chords i just do what i like you know most definitely um [ __ ] man so um i guess after so so after after these placements and stuff like that first of all were you were you like independent this whole time or did you sign like anything a deal early on or anything like that um we were independent um i was independent for a long time until 2000 [Music] 2016. okay and i think i started i really started in like 2013 that's when everything really started so from 2013 to 2016 i wasn't assigned to anything at all i was just you know pub deal nothing probably no no management nothing i was just i was just winging it you know yeah and thank god that i didn't really get jerked like that within them within that time because people see that you don't have representation for management and it's easy to get like jerked okay no i'm saying but thank god that that nothing like that happened to me so did you did you at least have like entertainment lawyers and stuff that looked over your agreement oh yeah yeah for sure yeah i need entertainment lawyers just to let y'all know that's like that's a key thing you have to have them look over your paperwork and you have to make sure you're signing the right thing and you got to make sure you yeah everything is in order organized can't do it yourself so you you'd say you'd recommend entertainment lawyer before anything before management before yeah that's that's probably number prob no more brother most definitely is there would you say how do you how how do you even like know a good entertainment lord you start like just reaching out and networking or yeah i mean just look up i guess look up entertainment the thing is my mother she was involved in my father's music okay for so long that she she already knew once once it came time for me to have an entertainment lawyer to do all my paperwork that that that was what i needed so she really held it down as far as like looking for entertainment lawyers making sure that they're legit and all of that but i would say go go on google and do your homework and make sure that whoever you you are hiring is like legit so that you can get your money and make sure it's done right okay most definitely um and i'm not asking for names or or or exact situations or whatever but were there ever times where you were given a contract and your lawyer reviewed it and he was like oh hell nah they're trying you right here um nah not really honestly that's good yeah everything always was like it looked right so i never had to deal with anything that was too crazy yeah most definitely so what was the what was the deal in 2016 um the deal in 2016 i signed to uh sony okay yeah that was that was when i was established as far as like the producer on a label yeah yeah now as far as post deals because now go ahead no no i was just saying i was that was like that was another exciting part of my career now uh as far as pub deals because i've heard i've heard multiple multiple takes on this i've heard people say don't do pub deals i've heard people say get a take a pub deal as soon as you get a hot record i've heard people say wait and let your catalog build up um just interested to hear what what your take is on that um honestly the reason i i didn't do a pub deal early on is because um i honestly didn't even really know what a pub like what what it was yeah well and i didn't want to owe any money so i just stuck it out for three years while doing these records and once it came time for me to do a pub deal they said bro you should you should have been you should have been did this because you have songs in the pipeline and it will be easy easy for you to make the money back so before you do a pub deal i i feel like like you said you should wait and just like have songs songs on the radio blacks about this and that so that when it comes time to pay the publishing back you can just do it real quick as you're still working but you still have to be working you still have to like have stuff coming it'll be easy i don't think it's anything you'd be scared of okay okay yeah now i just i just asked cuz like say for instance you did know new friends and then you were kind of like a one-hit wonder in that sense it's like in the moment of no new friends you probably could have signed a dope pub deal but then like maybe a year or two after of not doing anything it'd be like okay well you haven't really done anything since so they might not be ready to put up as big of a bag as they were kind of thing right so i would i would agree when you said wait wait and try to get as much music out there as possible on the radio what do you think causes producers to to to be like you know i don't i don't want to say one hit wonders but what do you think causes producers to because it seems like you got that you got that that placement and you just went crazy started you know working with everyone getting crazy placements winning grammys but there's also producers that maybe get that and then they they don't really do much after that what do you think is the main cause of that and what's the difference between what you've done and that um i mean i can't speak for them but if it may be um it may be that they just started making music and they got lucky with something that got pleased or [Music] they've been working for a long time and they finally got something placed and then they just kind of stopped working that's those are the two situations that i believe because if you're still if you're still working and you're not working with people i don't i don't know if if it'll be as hard as i don't i don't know it might not be as hard as i'm thinking that it is but you i guess you gotta have a foundation it can't just be you you gotta have people around you that you know are helping you get better and doing the things that you're doing it's like y'all just got to be on the same wavelength you're helping each other and y'all learning from each other because that's what me and my like the people that i've always been around them i've heard things that i'm like wow this this is not a radio right now like what's going on so that made me better i guess you could say in a sense because i'm like man if they're doing stuff like this and this is not on the radio what am i doing bro like i need to get better so i would say i have like have a tight circle around you that that are helping you as far as producing or whatever it is that you're doing and and it seems from from talking to you and then from talking to other producers it seems like you gotta you gotta be out there you gotta be moving around you gotta be going out to la you gotta be coming out doing that you gotta be going into your return the network going don't stop so what what percentage would you say you know over the past few years disregarding quarantine like before quarantine what percentage of you is like if you sit in front of a laptop by yourself making music versus networking making music with other people pulling up on sessions what's the balance um as for me it's funny because i'm i'm very i'm like i'm an introvert i guess you can say that okay so and and i guess i got lucky with the way like everything happened because so the people i'm close to i'm really close to you know and and they always seem to have something like very innovative so i'm always around it and it inspires me all the time and i know it's very hard to get inspired as far as a producer is it's hard sometimes yeah but you got to try to stay around people that stay innovative and inspire you or just try to listen to new music so i'm i'm really i'm really most of the time i'm by myself and i'm i'm always trying to listen to new music but certain times when i'm around the people that you know i really rock with they play me something and i'm like it blows my mind and i'm like wow so then i go back and i'm like i'm doing my homework and i'm like i need i need it to be like this i i'm i'm very like i'm very anal when it comes to like what i want it to be it has to be you have to you have to lock in you have to focus so when it comes to [Music] being around people and being by yourself i'm when i'm by myself i'm hard on myself but then when i'm around people you know they listen to myself you know always good but i listen to their stuff and i like what they're doing so it helps me being around them and but it also helps me being by myself because because sometimes i don't need so many people around me to to focus on what it is that i'm doing it's i don't know it sounds kind of weird no i can't forget it i understand for sure yeah that's just me it's like uh you need both you need that alone time but you also need more that's social time yeah you need to focus on your craft and also be around people that help you like innovate and be inspired and it's like it's it's an art form to balance that because too much social activity not enough work you know you can you can be held back and then too much sitting at home being in the bedroom not networking you can you can be held back sure most definitely man do you got uh do you got like a morning routine or you like a routine oriented guy um yeah wake up brush my teeth and not eat nah the basics oh when i get up you know as i go by i go by how i feel some days when i wake up in the morning i don't feel like i don't feel like working and and i've learned not to force it because if you force if you force doing music and it doesn't turn out the way you want it to turn out you feel like it was a waste of time at least that's how i feel but if you if you're inspired to do music and it don't turn out the way that you wanted to turn out then you just it's it's a different feeling to me i just feel like in that situation i'll just be like well at least you know at least i tried to do something you know or maybe i i learned something from what i did or i the whole beat might not be fired but something within that beat or something within what i did i'm i probably could use later [Music] but if i feel like i'm forcing it then uh it's just it turns me off within my experience so if i don't want to produce i'm not going to produce i'm not going to make myself go and do it until i'm inspired what are what what's some of your your uh downtime leisure activities what do you do to to inspire yourself or to stay inspired um i like to work out so when i wake up in the morning um i get ready and i try to go and work out and after that most mostly most of the time the rest of my day i'm thinking man the only thing i think about is music because after i worked out i'm listening to music while i'm working out and i'm i try to listen to to to things i don't usually listen to so while i'm working on like oh that was crazy what was that so i after i'm done working out i'm already ready to like work on music so that's how i usually really do it that's that's what inspires me okay that's definitely most definitely man um [ __ ] man let's uh let's bring some people in for uh for live q a man let's see uh let's see what i'll hand it over to the community see what they see what they want to know um just so you just just say you know how it works we just literally add people to the zoom call i got the link in the description so they'll be able to ask you directly um let's see man let's get uh madness beats man this pizza's in here and i i know you also you also have put out some uh some of your own music and stuff on spotify see what they want to know um just so you just works with just literally can you can you mute that youtube video bro you directly um meet the youtube video bro yo yo yo what's good bro that was my fault i forgot i had it on no you're good yo allen big fan man how you doing what's good bro thank you bro i appreciate that 100 absolutely i literally saw the message and i was like oh shoot i definitely got going this one all right so i had a quick question so melodies can you give any tips on like how you form your melodies what processing you might go through because i'm a big fan i know the pack you did with uh frank dukes yeah that that pack is crazy so like he can give any insight on what processing you might go through working on sample like melodies and whatnot you know it's crazy that whole thing with frank dukes it wasn't even it wasn't even planned it was really like i went into a session with frank dukes a couple of a couple of times and every time i went to a session we did something so when it comes to me and melodies i guess i guess you could say do what you like oh i'm not i'm not really sure what you like as far as melodies but i always usually go to the same to the same keys and after i do that then i try to be innovative with i guess and it also depends on what sound you're using so i won't do the same thing with different sounds so if i'm using like a pluck or something like that i'm not going to play chords i'll just like play like certain keys yeah i wish i had my keyboard right now i'll just show you yeah uh i'll play like i play like certain keys but not as far as chords but it would be in um it would be as far as a chord if i was to play it all together but when you do that it gives a whole different feeling than playing a chord altogether so certain things that like you know what i'm saying certain things that you do could could change the whole like feeling of the record so i would say like try to be creative as far as like thank you man i appreciate that so i would like to do something like that but like in the same in the same chord like if i was to press it all together i'll play the chord but when i'm doing this and doing that or like that that alone changes like the whole song that's awesome that's awesome i had one more question so i know you said you usually like to work on stuff like music and whatnot by yourself do you prefer sometimes to be in the studio to work with the artist directly or do you mainly just prefer like i said working at home um honestly it doesn't matter to me because only because i could do both um like i said at home the thing was sitting at home and working on a the thing was sitting at home and working on music and sending it to an artist is you have time for yourself to figure out what you what you it's all about you at that point and what you think the artist may want but the thing about working with an artist is you're really pertaining to them because they're in the room and if you play something that you think is dope and they might not think it's dope they could say like oh they can change that so there's a benefit there as far as like working with the artist in the room so i think i think either way is is cool but working with the artist in the room for them to know for you to know for sure if y'all both have like this bond and if y'all both agreed to making this type of beat or changing this and changing that i think that that may be better honestly definitely definitely all right well i appreciate it so much man thank you for your time thank you yes sir man appreciate you tapping in bro sir all right next up we got affidavit man um shout out to affidavit for lining up this interview too man yo yo my god his mic ain't even on he didn't connect yet i see you connect that audio where you might as well pull out a mic there we go now you just gotta unmute yeah yo yo gang gang what's good bro yo damn i didn't know i tuned in i'm madly yo ar was good man yo this is good bro yo yeah man i just wanted to shout out i never called in i never even called in on the show ever bro yeah first time calling in that's fine what's good bro you good yeah i was just calling in uh uh i just wanted to shout you out you know your inspiration to like the city connecticut for everybody that don't know i went to school with this kid here man y'all saying we used to be making music together knowing that we made music together um from from friends we were like like he was bro you got to send me something bro i know man soon man we gotta work for sure oh yeah no i just thought i wanted to shout out you always you know you always stayed humble you always you know you stayed yourself you know real to yourself and everything thank you bro i appreciate that that's most important bro yeah yeah remember uh not even that just getting up all the time like going to different people's studios every time i went to a different studio i seen you in like every studio working i was all over the place i was just trying to get it yeah man all the time yeah i don't know if everybody on here knows you're like a artist too like you know you do music all this r b stuff on the side yeah that's what i had literally just i i had uh before we brought bro and i was saying um he's got some he's got some some pretty big signals out there allen was like performing he was doing all of that like he was singing but at the same time he was uh being an artist up uh at start at first like he was making beats but i guess at the same time doing the whole artist thing she's doing you still you're still working on uh your own music yeah for sure for sure very soon bro fire number now especially with this whole pandemic thing yeah it's nothing but time you looking for beats so you only use your own beats nah yeah i'm always open to like beats like from other producers yeah [Music] want to say every time uh we were in the studio allen was uh like we always knew he was good with the melodies like every time he played something or like play something 140 play something e minor play something every time we told him play like a chord melody he always came with something like five or six different type of melodies right away chords everything that's right man how did you how would you recommend people um to get their ear for ear training how would you recommend people to um that's a good question ear training just play keys i can only speak for myself when um i was inspired what really inspired me was seeing somebody actually play the keys and play it to the liking of my ear so once i saw that i was like oh i like that i guess it's a it's a passion you have to you have to really have that passion to want to do it because if you don't you you're going to feel like it's a waste of your time but it trust me it's not a waste of your time as long as you like really want it as far as like even even listening to music on the radio if you hear it and you're like i love this i want to make something like this do it because that's only going to drive you to get better and to do something better than what you even heard on the radio you know i'm saying so i think it's just it goes as far as like passion you have to want to do it that passion that passion affidavit bro you got any uh any questions are you are you good bro nah i think i'm good i just wanted to shout them out check in i never checked in anyways so say that yeah shout out to you man we're good yes sir yes sir uh jay holmes what's good bro hey what's up dylan early game what's up alan renner man hey appreciate uh you taking the time to come on the producer grind and share your story and share some gems and inspire us and man dylan i you know asked you a couple of questions i was going to ask but uh um i guess one question is like what's what's your favorite um key in bpm um through through my career i changed my bpm so much i would um now i can't even 70 70 is a great bpm 70 sometimes i don't even go to 50. see i do half time i know a lot of people do like double time yeah yeah but i do have something so 70 50 sometimes 60 but there was a time where going to 50 was crazy so i'm i guess it's just however you you bounce your drums or whatever that make it sound good so from from like 50 to 70 sometimes i'll go to 120 sometimes i go to 80. it's it's i guess you gotta you gotta experiment and as far as my um the course that i use i really use um d minor i'm very comfortable in that that range of chord if i need to if i need to change my chord i ain't gonna lie i know people be talking crazy about it but i'll be transposing i know people lay all up and down i'll be transposing bro so hey me too but the the key indeed that's that's like my most comfortable but i think i think that's a gem is like you know you can you can save yourself time you don't need to learn every key in every scale just master one and you can then yeah play anything exactly yeah for real yeah because my background um like when that's what like how i got into music was just going to my grandparents church and it was a baptist church and man they have some awesome like musicians like keyboardist was incredible so i used to just sit there you know just trying to watch and see what he's doing you know i was like man how does he get that sound like that you know right but but yeah man it's like it's a struggle man like how so how did you like do you like to like start with the uh like your melodies or do you like to start like when you when you're making a beat like what you have a routine or you just go like whatever inspires you first um i don't have a reach routine i try not to routine myself because i feel like i'll be stuck in a like a bubble every time i start to produce so usually i'll just go through sounds whatever whatever sound i land on that i like i'll just sometimes i'll start with chords and sometimes i'll just start with single notes to see where the feel is does this sound better or does does it sound good and sometimes it doesn't sound good either either or with notes or me playing single notes but um but then i'll i'll start i'll start the session with drums then i'll just experiment and say okay maybe i need a certain bounce to maybe start to play melodies so i'll start with like a percussion loop or something like that and and then i'll start just playing chords or i just start playing single notes and sometimes i catch a vibe that way i think it's it it's just you just gotta experiment there's no real routine i don't have like something that i can tell you where oh if you do this every time it's gonna work because that's not true nobody can tell you that um i know some people have templates where they start with a certain amount of drums or a certain amount of sounds that they always use and then they change them but i've never done anything like that so i think i think it's more about experimentation you just do whatever you want whatever you feel yeah thank you man i appreciate that all right jay holmes man appreciate you tapping in bro thank you dylan man peace and blessings yes sir same to you bro g clues man what's good what's good brother what's good what's going on bro welcome back to the morning show man what's good man um yo salute both of y'all don't know i want to say appreciate you for doing the show uh alan thank you for the gems you've been driving so far um i love how you guys are humble and just continue working on your crafts um my first question was do you have like a specific um like plugin you like using to get you started um i'll tell you some of the plugins that i use usually if i'm going to use anything um omnisphere i like the thing about atmosphere there's so many sounds there's so many sounds but um sometimes i just like to go in there because there are so many sounds so that means i may have missed something that i didn't that i like overlooked before so i'll go to that um i don't know if you heard of octo by my best friend jacob yeah yeah hell yeah yeah i did shout out to jacob too that's right shout out to jacob he okay like he's working on other packs too but that that right there inspired to me um i don't know if you've heard of spitfire [Music] spitfire labs right yeah yeah i heard the labs bro go get that screen all right all right okay so they got sounds there um i've been using that lady lately but really i try to i try i'm i'm trying to like experiment with like one shot so so like i just like searched one shot and i just find like some one shots that you just press one key and it plays one key but then i'll put it into the put it into the guard and just pop it i got a dope one shot kid i want to send you bro after uh i'll we'll send it to email and a bunch of packs too drums and samples and stuff but i want you to try the one shot kit for sure thank you brother but yeah those those are the things that i've been using lately so yeah definitely experiment with that okay appreciate that um another question was um actually wasn't really a question i just wanted to say i i respect that you have like your parents and you like to push you and motivate you to keep doing your thing especially at a young age like that's hard for somebody to handle it's just like them supporting you that's that's key too like um and i just want to keep that up keep that relationship bro i know a lot of parents that well a lot of friends that i have a lot of parents they don't support that yeah do what you want to do like you know what i'm saying like you you have to go out and get it because you're always going to think like what if i mean so man do what you got to do i agree with that 100 bro cause it's like even if you even if you like even if like what you want to do is not even really like long-term what your passion is it's it's there's nothing wrong with taking a year to to learn that and figure it out if it's really your passion or if it's not you know i mean versus living with that like you said that lifetime of regret like damn i should have tried that kind of thing yeah real [ __ ] but yeah i think that was about it for me um just wanted to say thank you again for uh doing this interview dropping your gems for the community dylan i want to say thank you again for doing what you do and salute yes sir i appreciate you tapping it bro always allen man we appreciate your time this morning bro appreciate the jazz thank you for having me on here bro most definitely man um for sure bro i'm going to send you we'll send you over let you know man go ahead and send that pack through and um i'll follow up with you man i want to i want to know what you think of that kit but uh but damn man appreciate you once again bro thank you bro i appreciate that i need that pack too i'm going to remind you not facts man it's probably already sent it's probably already in your email um dope bro so i mean uh yeah man i'll pull up your ig right here everyone go tap in it's just alan ritter a-l-l-e-n-r-i-t-t-e-r give him a follow man are you um you open to people like dm and you and sending you samples and stuff like that of course i always put up my email to like send me samples okay you put it up on audrey yeah the email even if you you don't see it on ig the email is um alan ritter mp3 at gmail.com they're going to blow that up today i promise you that i guarantee you then all that i'm reading everything later get that through man we got it we got we got a priority man all right man um appreciate you once again bro all right thank you bro yes sir man we'll tap back in all right yes sir yes sir cool man another dope episode done and over with bro i woke up today at usually usually i wake up at like seven uh to do the morning show six or seven bro i set my alarm for six i didn't fall asleep till two i set my left for six bro i snoozed it all the way till like nine so i got up jumped up brewed up the coffee so would be ready when i got out of the shower jumped in the shower got out ran upstairs and uh and prepared for today man so uh man i'm gonna do better though i'm gonna do better tomorrow tomorrow i'm going to sleep early tonight man and tomorrow i'm waking up really i'm getting back on my schedule because i don't like this sleeping inch though i really don't i really don't like it but i got to get back to my i got to get back to my 4 a.m wake up workout grind man that was what i was feeling good after david woke up at 9-2 oh yeah no problem drew p man i'm glad you guys tuned into the show man always dope um tomorrow like i said we got deb is lit producer and then friday man we got uh we're doing a battle man we're doing a battle beat contest review there will only be about 60 slots we're not going to burn ourselves out and listen to 100 beats they will fill up very very very very fast and you know how we do it it's going to be first come first serve so i'll if you're on techcia you're in telegram um or if you follow us on ig hit that notification bell that's probably your best bet subscribe and hit that notification bell um because you you will definitely get priority you'll get that notification and if you're on text gang you'll get uh you'll get that text um so you can immediately jump just so put it out write it down put in your calendar now if you want to participate because they will fill up like those 60 slots will fill up in like five minutes i promise you that um it will fill up in five minutes so if you want to get your beat played live you want to have a chance to win some prizes like i said we're going to give away some cash uh we're going to give away some fl studio licenses so the official fl studio um yo dylan i still haven't gotten any of those community texts man i send texts out i i think i sent a text out all last week i sent um a text out yesterday morning this morning so maybe you're not subscribed to the right uh message and you got to be in the us and canada as well too so if you're in the other states then join the telegram that's your second best bet we gotta it's the telegram is a dope community by the way there's there's a lot of networking and communication going on in the telegram like every day um i jump in there and say what's up sometimes um and tap in but there's a lot of like you know people sending beats getting reviews people exchanging samples um it's a dope community uh how do we submit like i said yeah the merch so the merch the merch drop is next friday i was gonna do it this friday but the merch drop is gonna come next saturday like i said we got a whole bunch of stuff that we've been just sitting on over the years um a lot of stuff that you guys have always asked about too like there's uh there's some tie-dye beat makers the the bleach tie-dye beat makers which are fire you know you guys always see superstar oh uh wearing that thank you rad beats thank you rad beats man appreciate that yeah he just spammed the telegram group chat link so if you want to if you have the telegram app you have to have the telegram app first and then click that link and it will um you will be able to join um but yeah so uh this this friday like i said we are doing the the battle the contest we're giving away some stuff and uh also like i said fort noodle is dropping his whip up expansion pack so if you guys are a fan of the whip up kid that's like the only drum kit i use is the whip up kit i'm not gonna lie um ever since ever since uh ever since four noodles sent it to me it's literally been the only the only kid i really use just because the 808 smacks so damn hard um and the hi-hats are real clean too um but yeah so the expansion is coming out friday he's been working on it very hard and we're dope to uh we're excited to drop that on you jb also has a couple kits that he's dropping friday as well so friday's a big day um hey yeah man also anyone that grabbed the art kit too there's an update coming in like two weeks so if you grab the art kit you'll automatically get the update in two weeks it's gonna be some additional stuff we're making a little bit fatter we we got some feedback from the community and uh we know what we needed to add and just make it better so um if you have the art kit there will be an update coming in two weeks yeah the whip up kid isn't saying j myth class e says had a great month of sales and y'all about to take my money with the merch job yeah man i know i know you guys are excited about the merch you know we only uh you know we only drop merch every once in a while so excited to bring it back yeah the zone six kit is fire and it's free um but yeah man i will see you guys tomorrow morning and i'll see you guys friday for the battle so tap in [Music] [Applause] [Music] you