NFL Week 4 Prop Bets, Best Bets & Predictions transcript

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WELCOME EVERYONE to the sports gambling podcast. I'm Sean stack of the money gra with my partner picks Ryan real money Kramer. What's happening >> dog? >> Greetings Sean. >> Greetings. We're here >> Thursday. >> Happy Thursday. Happy Thursday Thursday. We're thirsty for some NFL props week four. Joining us in studio from the Bottomline Bombs podcast on the SportsGment Podcast Network, Mr. CJ Sullivan. What's happening, CJ? >> So, fellas, good to be here wrapping it up.

Oh, it's actually the 1 of October. So, we're wrapping up the quarter here >> and and we're uh >> like a businessman. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Talking about the end of a quarter. >> All right. End of the quarter. It's time to uh circle back and uh [clears throat] start off start off some new numbers. We hit a ladder last week here. >> Yes. Shout out to us for the uh >> Oh, wait. What was the ladder uh last week? >> I hit Troy Harris ladder here last week.

Plus 780. Over to 70 yards there. >> And I uh I hit my uh the Gino over 300 yards. That was fun. The Lamar, which was part of my DJ parlay. He got to 50 rushing yards. Yes. >> Pretty good uh week overall on the props. >> Yeah. >> And uh shout out. You know, I think a number of us were on Khalif Raymond on Monday night. Maybe not you in that game. >> I I gave the Raymond Great opportunity. >> I gave the Raymond ladder out on the bottom line bombs up to 90 yards if you could get it.

My book would only allow me to go to 70 hours. >> That was the What's the law? How How can the ladder go? >> And how high do you want to climb? What's the law? >> That is the law here. [laughter] >> Let me pull that out again. >> It is. It's I I do. What is that [laughter] from, CJ? >> Do you know what it's from? >> Um, well, it's uh it it comes on my feed. L I got a lot of ladder material on my feed there, of course.

You know, it's just just the way it um >> you know, once you once you get in that ladder world, Sean, you get like things like, "Oh, you like this? You might ladder algorithm." >> Yeah, I have a ladder algorithm. >> I get ladder pictures. >> Yeah, I got ladder photos and lad. >> And it's not betting related. >> And I get ladder I got ladder sound bites, too. Yeah. Unlatter unbetting related. It's like the cap show where it's like you got to click all the ladders. >> Yeah.

I think this guy was like an old motivational speaker like not your Zig Ziggler types. You know what I mean? Before that like in the 70s. >> Climb this ladder as hard as high as you want to climb it and how high can you climb? What's the law here? [laughter] >> Climb this ladder. >> I want to know the context. >> The only I imagine he's talking about the corporate ladder, but [laughter] the >> Oh, I see that. The only ladders I'm aware are uh the ones that Japan sends us in the uh on V.

He always sends some great ladder pics for our V show. >> That guy by the way, that white great white socks uh player. He is he is just hammering the sound. >> ANOTHER ANOTHER GREAT ONE. 100. >> HE DID 100. He did it again yesterday because they beat the uh um the Astros. So there's more champagne. That's what I do love about the baseball playoffs. There's champagne every four days. Seems like champagne to get in a best of three, >> right? >> But it's fun if you're going to do that.

I mean, if if he's going to do a sound bites, you know what? Champagne after every every win. >> Yay. >> Ryan loves celebrating. >> I just did a live performance. Don't follow. >> It's so great that they have all have the goggles on. None of them wear the goggles and they're just getting champagne all over their eyes. I mean, imagine being the Dodgers watching the winner of the Braves Phillies game tonight. Popping champagne over like you got to play us on Saturday.

What are you What are you guys doing? Like there's a whole another month of playoffs to go. >> It does seem >> Yeah, it just seems like what what are we what are we celebrating? >> I understand celebrating clinching a division in the regular season. >> That's fine. >> And I understand celebrating winning a trophy, aka a conference or a league. And I understand celebrating winning a championship. >> Yes. >> This idea that you celebrate advancing around in the playoffs very 2026. >> I think it's cuz baseball is just so long and they have to do.

So it's like it's like literally just a 200 game season. Like anytime we can have any fun, fun's just not allowed, >> I guess. I mean the the sound bites are great and baseball players celebrating. I'm fine with that. >> I mean whatever. Anyway, >> not really that, >> but he's on a heater, by the way. He He's just killing the heat. >> Speaking of which, shout out to all the Red Sox fans >> for being [ __ ] losers. >> The universe, >> what a wild season.

They were out and then they are back in. >> Sean, the universe is correcting itself very rapidly with what's happening in Boston sports right now. >> Yeah, brother is >> no idea if the Bruins are any good, but I I assume they're going to suck, too. I mean, the the and and the the Celtics trade traded away their future to Philly. Yep, >> that was a weird trade. >> Yeah, Boston's a mess. >> Somehow made both teams worse. >> Uh, check out the MLB Gambling podcast.

Get you going for the MLB playoffs. Hockey gambling podcast is back. Flyers got off to a rough start, but uh, check out those pods. Love hearing from the guys. Get them on the SGPN amp. >> I have hockey futures this year. Co-authored with Rosenberg. Couldn't tell you. >> Couldn't couldn't tell you who I've wagered on, but I had I have a sweat that I won't care about. Let it slide. >> Just stays in the bet satchel. >> Nice. >> All right, so we know how we do this.

Five props, then a ladder, then a DGEN only parlay. We'll also crowbar an underdog entry in there as well. Kramer, you have the honors. What is your first prop for NFL week four? >> Uh my my notes are all over the place. Let's see here. Uh >> yeah, let's just go with Patrick Mahomes. Over 15 and a half rushing yards. M >> the Las Vegas Raiders are >> shockingly good getting after the quarterback, creating havoc this year. >> As we know, left tackle um >> who at at this point, I don't know how you can rely on him.

He's he's missed as many games as he's started for them. And it's it's a back situation. Bulging disc does not sound good. So anyway, I certainly think that Patrick's going to have to do a little running in this one. >> Again, surprised at how good the Raiders defense is. And um you know, I think uh ever since that Kermit the Frog game, >> he's had a little bit extra focus in these Raider Raiders matchups. So 15 and a half yards is pretty low for him. >> Yeah, it is. >> Uh I was I a hand up.

I was duped coming into the season watching him uh stumble around camp in a big knee brace. That was a complete lie. >> I like the conspiracy theorists that say it's uh it was all a hoax in the same way that Gardenner mentioned tear his ACL. Yeah. What better way to get rid of all the pressure and expectations than by telling people he had an ACL. >> Yeah, he did not tear his ACL. >> In his career, he's averaged 20 rushing yards a game against the Raiders.

I mean, it was obvious the week one obviously when they ran in for a touchdown, but it was obvious when it happened when when Gardner Mchu the following week the backup also got injured and they announced that he tore his ACL and he had to say, "No, I didn't. I I'm I'm a free agent. You can't be spreading this misinformation." And the Chief's like, "No, no, you did. Gardner, you did. You tore your ACL. Sit down and listen to it." >> How many yards do you think Chuck had week uh week three? >> Oh, he had he had that long one.

Yeah, he broke off like a 39 yard. I think he had 36 yards. I don't know about >> he broke he broke a big run off though for a third. >> He might have had Yeah, I I'll have to verify that number, but uh anyway, I had him going well over the number as well. So, fantastic. Mahomes rushing yards over. >> I like it. >> Yes. Let's get at Oh, he had a uh he had a 36 y against the Raiders. >> Yeah, it was uh one carry for 36 yards. >> He threw for 400. >> Yeah, he he Oh god, don't get me started on that game.

But, uh, congrats your Raiders there, Ryan. Uh, I'm I'm sticking in the, uh, quarterback rushing realm. I'm going to go to CJ Strad over 11 and a half rushing yards. You got a desperate quarterback at home, back against the wall, 0 and3, and you're going against the Cowboys who lead the league in quarterback rushing allowed. Now granted, some of it's the quarterbacks they've played uh with Lamar there and then Jackson Dart, Jaden Daniels all had very good games, but even I mean I just kind of like it more for the situation and Strad has been running last game only two for 10, but before that three for 29, two for 15 game one against the Bills.

So uh I think >> his life >> I think he's going to be running around. Uh and yeah, 11 and a half feels very doable for CJ Strad. Uh, speaking of CJ, CJ Sullivan. >> Love that one. Desperate game. Great segue, Byron Allen. Um, >> I heard you like giving out NFL [laughter] props. >> This is excellent stuff. >> Speaking of quarter, Speaking of rookie quarterbacks, didn't you weren't you talking about uh I'll I'll I'll put a button on this quarterback rushing prop thing here.

And uh Sean, I'm going to I'm going to offer you the Malik Willis we were promised is coming is actually this week. a rushing quarterback in South Florida who we thought we were going to be hitting all year long now finally gets his chance and that is Jaylen Daniels. >> Oh, >> rookie starter there in Tampa Bay. >> That was nice. >> Like a magician. >> Had me looking over there. I was a little distracted. I go Malik Willis >> and is this your card?

Well, Malik Willis is a guy we came in season thinking we're going to be hitting his rushing prop all the time. >> And he's still you look at his season long. His season long was like only 500 yards. He's not That's not dead yet. >> It's not dead yet, >> but it's not off to a great start. >> It's not dead yet. It's not a great start because he's paid. You know, he kind of wants to do with those weapons. Obviously, things have Jaylen Daniels.

He knows this is a shot. He loves it. There's a guy who uh you know, undrafted free agent, was ranked 22nd like in high school. Only got one scholarship to Kansas and he earned his year freshman year. >> He earned bets from me and Sean on the Heisman multiple years. >> Oh, I I bet on him too. [laughter] I know he was he was in and out with injuries, but you watch him. He's a very willing runner. Even if you just saw the four plays, he jumped in there when Baker got hurt.

He took off for two of them. >> Um, and he looks good. He's got a little live arm. I'm excited for what happens in that game. Uh, >> his number's a little high. 38 1/2 yards. His attempt six and a half. I think he clears both of these, but I'm going to go with the attempts over six and a half. I see him scampering a lot, especially under pressure there. Um, >> scampering. >> Great use of the word scamper. He'll be doing a little scampering.

He can take off for long runs as well, but he will definitely be willing. Obviously, rookie quarterback's first NFL start. Never never easy. It's very confusing. And uh I think it's a will be two run. >> Uh yeah, love that. I like the attempts angle cuz the yardage is maybe a hair high. >> It was a bit high. I was expect I was hoping for like 29ish around there, but 38's high. >> They they're [ __ ] maniacs if they don't design some run for runs for him.

So, at least that's some maybe they're even up uh going into the half and you get some kneel downs and or end of the [laughter] game. I mean, it is the Packers. >> I'm not counting on the Neils, but >> really, I would if they win the game. >> I'll stay in that game >> with the Tampa Bay Bucks and we mentioned it. We were talking about this on the uh NFL prop show or sorry, the NFL pick show last night. Kramer was highlighting it and I totally agree.

Ted Hurst I think could be his guy. His over is only now underdog right now is the only uh place I think that has this but uh 19 and a half receiving yards. He had a connection with Daniels. I mean they were both they came in on the same rookie class. No Jaylen McMillan. They're obviously serious issues with the Packers secondary. Whatever they're going to try and be locked in on IOA, but I think he has some chemistry with uh Ted Hurst. >> We got a number. >> Okay.

Hey, what's what's >> 22 and a2 blue book, Green Book, pretty much everyone. >> He's uh certainly certainly lable. >> I think the ladder is live, too. >> The the reason I I've I knew that is I'm all like this is a smash spot here. >> Like and back to the reason like you saw the Ted Hurst highlights during camp and and almost none of those throws were from Baker. >> Look at the game. But even even the games this this year with Baker, he's had some high leverage throws to him that like, you know, just haven't haven't connected.

He had a 40-yard touchdown last week. The Cleveland Browns game, you know, he dropped it, but it was in the rain after the rain delay thing there. But like they they trust him and he gets open. >> It's a one catch pro. It's like with the way that he plays, you're essentially like the longest yards isn't like actually, let me just pull up. What What do you think his longest is? >> His total 22 and a half. >> 12 and a half longest. >> Wow.

Yeah. I love that. Now, I'll show you the notes later. He was definitely one of one of the I had backup ladders, but he was definitely a ladder in there. What I'm trying to say is I love the Ted Hurst play. >> Well, I like your Ted Hurst play. So, you're you're locking in the yards, right? Cuz they're also um >> I just want to make sure that Yeah. So, his you can play one and a half catches juiced heavily like minus odds.

Two and a half is like plus 160. I like the yards the best as well. >> Just to show you. >> 36 to1 for 100 yards for Ted. Oh, I just want to >> and and to >> what is the law? What is the law here? >> CJ's a bonus prop for me. Neither of these will count against my five. Um when I saw that Jaylen Daniels anytime price was plus 420. I saw I said that's probably >> probably a sign we should buy in on this nice and early. >> Definitely going to be playing some Jaylen Stay tuned for the TD bar segments uh on the VO show cuz how is he not going to be live?

Too bad underdog makes you take a different team with their entry because looks like it looks like we could have a full on buck shove here. [laughter] >> I got plenty I got plenty of plays. I got plenty of plays that are are below the fold right now. So, >> uh CJ, what's your second prop you like here? >> I'm going to go to an under. Last year, last week I opened up with an under and it hit. Raandre Stevenson under yard rushing there. >> Uh I usually don't go to unders, but you guys inspire me to do it the negativity and uh you know what, the unders usually do hit.

So, I'm going to go with another running back that's going to be that's going to be a stiff this week, and that is Tony >> Pard. 45 and a half rushing yards. There's a couple I like of the unders, but Tony Pard, especially just because his Titans offense is very bad. And uh they are minus.07 EPA, which is 23rd in the league. And he only gets 53% of the snaps anyway. He splits with Taji Spears. He has he's not in the passing game whatsoever.

So what he's just he's basically he's in there to run huge road dog obviously game script they can they'll be abandoning that pretty soon anyway uh 45 and a half rushing yards I think Tony Pard gets absolutely around you know 20 to 30 range and shout out to the chat uh CJ Pimpin not sing fan club tell him CJ what's that >> it's a YouTube handle that's a big fan of CJ >> uses my photo there in the description yeah he was in the solid show last night.

He was in the bombs chat today. Love >> bomb it. >> Love pimping. >> I I mean no disrespect. I would not have guessed that was you, CJ. >> Yeah, I need I need my readers, I guess. [laughter] >> Uh I'll stick with CJ's uh under angle. Give me the uh the Jags rush defense in particular has been very good. Fourth fewest uh of rush yards allowed to the running back. Jags defense in general, I think, underrated. Chase Brown very high at 64 and a half rush yards in my mind.

Give me the under for Chase Brown in the uh game against the Jags. He's only gone over this once so far this season. Obviously only three games, but uh I think the Jags do a good job locking him down. So yeah, give me the Chase Brown under 64 and a half rushing yards. And of course uh reminder, we're brought to you by our good buddies over at Edge Boost. Boost it, baby. Shout, strap on those boosters. First off, you get a hundred free dollars for your Edge Boost card.

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Kramer, what are you doing here? >> I suppose I'll also play an under. >> Ooh, I like this. >> The more that I look at the matchup on the offensive line for the Ravens >> against the Tennessee defensive line, Jeffrey Simmons. >> You're not taking Derk Henry under, are you? general strength >> in a revenge game. >> The general strength of this defense. Well, I I figured I would bring some some some evidence >> and I agree with you.

I first of all, he hasn't had a revenge game yet, so we don't really know what that looks like. We don't know what Dererick Henry revenge looks like. But since 2025, running backs who have had opening lines of 90 plus yards have gone over just two out of 14. This is courtesy of Connor Allen. M >> Connor Allen NFL over on X. Uh the two that went over, Jonathan Taylor and Jonathan Taylor. Uh Derek, the couple times Derek Henry has had a number over 90 yards, uh he had 23 yards week two of last year and he had 60 yards week 13.

So, I do think that the not having your starting or backup center, moving your rookie first round guard to center, a position he hasn't really played in a competitive sense, is going to disrupt the ability to run. You add in a Wednesday mispractice from Lamar with a back tag. >> Do we have an update from today, Sean? >> I think he played or he practiced. I think that's enough for me to want to fade this run game in general this week.

And uh yeah, if I'm and if I'm just getting inside the head of Robert Salah, I would imagine he'll approach it the same way. Make Lamar beat him with the arm. >> Make a play quarterback. >> Derrick Henry's not beating him. And how often do you see 90 98 and a half yard? >> That's the number. 98 and 12. 98. >> You buried the lead there. >> Oh, I'm sorry. Derk Henry under 98 [laughter] and a half rushing yards. >> That's a massive number.

I mean, that's insane. >> Again, in the past, >> has he has he not played the Titans yet? >> No. In the past one one season and in three weeks, the 14 instances of a running back have having a total of 90 yards or more >> has gone under in >> 12 of 14 cases. >> Jonathan Taylor being the only one to defeat him. >> 98 and a half. You had me at 98 and a half. That's crazy. Uh Tanning in the chat, he likes uh he likes the Derrick Henry receiving yards ladder.

Interesting way to attack it. >> Gets the ball outside. The middle of the field is going to be a disaster. >> And Adam Oso saying he liked Lamar rushing. Kind of I would imagine similar idea where they're getting blown up in the middle. Lamar's going to have to scramble to the outside. Maybe if they do struggle with this center rush, the middle of the rush, uh check it down to Derek. Get some screens going. I like that logic.

That makes sense. Uh CJ, what are you doing here? Next prop. >> Man, I kind of just want to go unders now. >> Yeah, >> I got another under. >> I got two unders. >> I'll see you with another another under. >> You know, I just do another under. This is These unders are fun. I I mean, why not? I got Well, no, cuz now I'm thinking I mean, you got We have a full slate of V shows coming this weekend. I mean, I there's so many ladders.

There's so many props that we have to give out this weekend. So, I need You can It's like It's like material. You can never have enough material. You can never have enough props and ladders in the bullpen and in the holes are ready to go. >> Fun additional nugget on that, Derek Henry, the 90 yard uh plus running backs. >> Yep. >> Uh the in week two of last year when they were uh when he had a 94 and a half yard number against the Cleveland Browns, the Ravens were laying 12 and a half and they led the entire game. >> [laughter] >> So, I mean it even in that kind of game script it it sometimes tough to get they were they were eight-point favorites against the Bengals in the other occurrence. >> Interesting. >> They did trail the game in that one. >> Um my first under that I went with was game script related because I do believe the Ravens will be leaning on Tennessee.

I just don't see Tennessee running the ball on another one is not quite game script as much as I just don't he's not really passing the eye test and he's also onedimensional. JK Dobbins. >> Yeah. who >> under seen him this under 59 and a half rushing yards which seems like a pretty high number. They gave the ball 17 times last week. He had 49 yards, 2.9 a pop against her. And this Niners defense and I know there's no no Bosa.

Denver's run game in in general just doesn't look good, which has been which is weird for what a great offensive line they have, but not being in a passing game. I I do believe the Niners will be ahead in this game too as well. But uh he's also one dimensional, not no threat of of pass there. So they're rotating it out there and you and Dobbins himself just doesn't have that little zip that he usually has there like a little pop there.

So he just he just looks flat. The running game looks flat. I believe they're going to try to get McCarthy and what's his face involved even a little more now. Um yeah, give me JK Dobbins under 59 and a half rushing. >> Great save. >> Yeah, like it. Uh next up in the uh props from down under. >> Down under. Yeah, we're all going down under. >> Down under what? >> Under their uh under their receiving yards line. [laughter] I'm >> I'm trying to figure out a dingo ate my prop. >> That was actually That was Do you know what the dingo ate my baby? >> Was it from? >> Yeah, it wasn't.

It was like some famous Australian news story where >> the dingo ate a baby. >> Did it actually eat the baby or was the I think it the mama's line and the kid >> if you type did the dingo, it tries to autocomplete to eat the baby. And what was what was the actual >> Yes. A wild dingo killed a 9-w weekek old Australian baby. >> Oh wow. >> August 17th, 1980. >> It is. I mean, it's just such a tragic story. They were camping. >> Everyone's like, "A dingo ate my baby.

[laughter] >> It sounds like a cartoon." Meanwhile, it's this poor woman's life. >> Hilarious Australian tragedy. >> Uh, >> what is a dingo? [laughter] >> They're like a wild dog. I'm I'm I'm being like >> shout out to our dens down under. We got a bunch of Australians. >> They're like hyenas, aren't they? >> Yeah. >> Let's see. Dingo is a medium size 16 to 26 in tall, 24 to 48 lb. >> And it's like Yeah, it's definitely >> kind of looks like a fox.

Has a fox look to that family, right? I would I would not think they would be eating babies. Well, I Yeah, the interesting thing about wild dogs, they they're very old and so they're quite their intelligence is quite uh impressive. So, I'm sure they hunted that baby >> in a pack. >> Sean's shaming a parent. So, really >> I mean, you leave you leave a [laughter] kid out in Australia, it's bound to get eaten by something. >> It's not like a pack of trail mix.

It's your child. You can't just leave it out there. >> In Australia, though, I think that just means you have a weak child. I mean, that's kind of the right of passage out there. Yeah. I assume I assume Australians are raised >> fighting dingoes and ruse. Lot of things that can kill you in Australia. >> Yeah. And if a dingo get you, then you weren't going to be you weren't going to be ready for Australia anyway. >> You were never going to survive.

You never had a chance. >> It's kind of Yeah. Now that you're saying that, it's probably the probably a pretty embarrassing way to go out. >> That's why it became a joke. >> Humiliate. >> That's why I became a oneer humiliate. >> That's why I became a national punchline and and eventually an [laughter] international. >> I just remember it from like monologue jokes. >> Sure. Yeah. Absolutely. Seinfeld made it famous as well. >> This thing dingo ate his baby.

Kevin, [laughter] he would do that like baseline. >> Oh, her baby's gone. Boo. [laughter] >> The earliest remains of a dingo. >> Out of his mind are as old as 4,000 years old. >> Shout out to the dingoes. Uh, I'm fading. Colston Loveland. His his receiving yards is 33 and a half. Really? >> He even had his breakout game last week. They got him four catches. He only got to 31 yards. Jets are pretty good against the tight end.

And it's clear this version of the offense is, hey, we're running the ball. Khif Raymond's our guy. Odun, Burden. They just aren't using Lovelin. >> And with either Bean or Keenum in there, I don't think that's going to change coming up Sunday. >> You know how I You know how diabolical I think Ben Johnson is? I I think I am I'm like 100% in belief that he is holding back stuff. >> Yeah. And I think some of the stuff he's holding back is the deployment of his tight ends. >> And I think we're going to see his offense kind of have some much different looking stuff as the season goes on. >> Did they announce if they're starting Begent or Keenum yet? >> I think the conventional wisdom is we're going to get a Begent. >> I know.

Which I think is also diabolical, Ben, where he just wants to show off what he can do. Like now watch what I see with >> I've never coached a game without a first uh first overall pick. Now let me do it two games. Oh, Case Keenum, now I'm going to deal with Begent. Uh, right. And like cuz every other situation, any other coach would be like, "Oh, well, obviously Case Keenum's starting again." Like they would they would never switch this up.

But >> this is what Ben wants to do. He wants to get in his bag. >> He he reiterated that Beant was the number two coming in. And >> they like Beant. They made Begent one of the highest paid, if not the highest paid backup quarterback. >> Well, and it is the ultimate flex with Ben Johnson. I can beat you with Caleb. I can beat you with Case Keenum. I can beat you with Tyson B. Shut the [ __ ] up, [ __ ] >> What? >> I got to break the record. >> Currently, I think in this world, Ben Johnson isn't the [ __ ] You would be the you in the Eagles would be the [ __ ] >> Yeah, he beat us, but it's a long season.

He also he also put up three points at home with Caleb Williams, so >> that's not relevant to the match up between the Eagles and the Bears. Well, what is I me calling him a [ __ ] has nothing to do with Eagles versus Bears. >> He ped me calling him a [ __ ] to do with Case Keenum. >> Okay, they won the game. >> By the way, is now 4-0 against Vic Fangio. Worth noting. >> Yeah, you've been trottting that out. >> I just like people to understand good data. >> Okay, >> I'll stay in this game. >> JJ McCarthy better win loss than uh [laughter] >> he took a shot at golf.

He took a shot at golf for no reason after the Eagles Bears game. [ __ ] Ben Jones. M >> I don't like I don't like him go out the golf for no reason. No need for him to catch. >> I like how he's causing all this. >> Mhm. >> A lot of people focusing on him and not the prize. >> I'll stay in this game because I do think >> a lot of eyes on the product. >> I do think his de his uh his defense is just going to give up points when when they face a quarterback that can throw the forward pass. >> Gino Smith week one, he did not have the best game. didn't go over the number 226 and a half, but the past two weeks 247 321 now going against this Bears defense 100% I'm playing this.

I think they've been I think they've been confidently throwing the forward pass. I likely maybe they get uh AD Mitchell back, maybe they don't. Sadique looks good. Garrett Wilson looks good. Um, yeah, 226 and a half seems low for a game that likely to involve some points, at least some drives, and likely to have some opportunities to pass the ball against this Bears defense, >> whether or not they're putting up a ton of points or not. >> Speaking of the bag, Frank Reich's been in his bag.

I mean, he's he's been shocking how that offense looks good. >> I would say >> Gina looks great. If I would, the positive thing I would say is at least they're they're not trying to play scare. They're not doing the Jason Garrett thing. So Frank Reich is at least going for it. >> I mean, just their routes, they're schemed. I mean, they're he's put him in tight windows, too. And I I'm I'm shocked. I'm saying this as a compliment.

I couldn't believe what Frank Reich is blowing out. >> And I I I said this before the year, but I it it was potentially going to be the best skill talent that Gino had ever played with. and he had that run with Lockett and and Metaf. So, um yeah. No, I think I think fading the Bears defense still has to be on the board. >> Yeah. No, Bree Hall maybe they end up throwing more. I certainly go outside not quite as much as >> No, of course not.

But you're it's just I think we're getting a depressed number here because the Bears have faced the Vikings and the Eagles in the past two weeks who have their offenses have looked a little um broken. >> Yeah. >> And so and I'm not crediting the Bears defense with the reason >> I would have I have the Jets outright in that game. >> Oh, >> so I like the Bears. I don't Yeah, I don't I don't know about that, but I think like if this turns into a game where both teams >> I like the Bears, but I like it because of the Bears offensive line um more than their defense.

Their defense is good at generating turnovers. That's what keeps them in these games, and I think that's been huge for them. So, we'll see if Gino can say uh play a clean. >> Gino just threw 37 times for 321 yards. >> He was incredible last week. The week before that, 41 times he dropped back or threw the ball for 247. I It just seems like it's a really low number. Little known number. CJ, give us another prop you like. >> All right.

Um, speak of the dingoes eating babies. Not at all, but we will go to But we will go to Tottenham for the game over across across the pond. >> Do they have dingoes in in England? >> I got to have something. They have accents. I know that, but that's all that matters when it comes to that joke. Um, >> they are dingoes. Yeah, bloss and dingoes over there. Um, the great little fun game in the morning there, Colts and Commanders.

Both defenses not good. Both secondaries abysmal. Um, >> you want to hear a fun fact about the game? >> Yeah. >> Not playing on grass. >> Apparently, they take they roll the grass field off and there's a synthetic grass field. >> Interesting. >> That the that they're playing on this year. >> It's in Tottenham, right? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um, that's interesting. Did they play uh football on that as well? >> Uh I didn't I didn't read a ton about what they use it for, but it did sound like they weren't getting the premium soccer grass. >> They were doing They're doing it so they wouldn't mess up the They're They're basically laying the paper their guests coming over.

Listen. Yeah, I like that. Let me Let me see if >> they're not breaking out to find China for Daniel Jones and Marcus Mariota. You bums can run around on this. And I do think both teams will run around on this. But, um, this Colts offense, we were talking about during rehearsal, uh, Ryan, they're not going to be able to go as deep as much now with Alec Pierce out there. Um, not even when he, um, wasn't catching balls, at least he stretched them vertically, and that is what Washington gives up.

So, I think the matchup, but they have been going over the middle now, which they did a lot versus Houston last week. Two success. A lot of Tyler Warren and more importantly, Keenan Allen had a nice big game last week. He had uh six catches for 63 yards and a touchdown. 25% target share over that. And in the red zone, he had a 40% red zone target share. Washington so far has allowed 280 passing yards a game, 11 passing touchdowns.

QB rating of 124. I think uh Colt should have no problem moving the ball. Keenan Allen's numbers, three and a half receptions or 35 yards. Either one. Pick your poison. I like Keenan Allen here. I'll take the yards. 35 A2. Look at this spaceship situation here. This is the uh the field. So essentially they have built a synthetic grass situation just for American football because they have two games. >> Wow. >> Now one uh commissioner, this is what it looks like when a location is serious about wanting to host games.

Although I would have been fine with grass, even if it was a different grass that could handle football better. The issue is always the the gr the different grass types aren't meant for heavy men. But the fact that I mean this is this is the opposite of what Brazil just did, >> right? >> Brazil just said, "Fuck it. We threw some grass seed over there. It's growing right now." Uh so yeah, interesting nugget. This is the first year they're doing this.

So >> um we won't have slippage hopefully on uh on the or we'll have some bad injury and then people will be very mad that they have a synthetic field. >> How dare they? >> Yeah, one of one of two things will happen. >> Okay. my uh my fifth prop. I'm going to keep fading the Bengals. Uh when it comes to tight ends, Brenton Strange over 33 and a half receiving yards. Bengals have given up the most receiving yards to the tight end.

Fortunately, it got uh split up between Darnell Washington and Frimouth last week, but uh you know, the Bengals slack cornerback is in a walking boot. Their safeties are banged up and Liam Cohen likes attacking the middle of the field. I think Parker Washington could have a good game as well, but uh Brenton Strange way too low at 33 and a half receiving yards. >> Yeah. Who's the slot corner of Cincinnati? Just put an IR.

Is it Irvine or Davis? Maybe something like an I. I thought >> I forget his name, but anyway, he's our star slot corner, which is big for Parker Washington. I of course added Brenon Strange. >> Jaylen Davis was the injury and Dax Hill they moved to quarterback. >> Okay. Um but yeah, Brennon Strange, I mean just to back up your uh flame cuz he was on my sheet as well. That's why you always have more in the holster ready to go.

That's why they did a double dunder. >> I have a very long list today as well. CJ >> Bengals of course second most reception yards per game to tight ends. And uh and [snorts] um Brenton Strange alone had 77% and 83% of his snap rates last two games alone. He was out there for like even all the 12 personnel packages. It was just two and it was Strange. That was it. You know that which is more to the story of Brian Thomas Juniors.

It's not a thing anymore. No. >> And uh >> what the hell happened to him? >> I know. He was so exciting that rookie year. >> It's insane. I'm hoping >> Well, it's Mac. Jones. That was the secret. >> Yeah, he's a Mac. Mac Jones merch. >> There was Which is why they should ship him to San Francisco. He's a perfect trade. They send him over there. Get something out of San Francisco. Obviously needs a receiver. They're putting Khalil Hodgej out there for crying out loud.

Uh pie him up with plan him up with have him teach him up with M. Jones in the practice fields out there in electroshocks. That'll get him back in. That's a good rehab place for him. I'm sure you can get a fourthrounder for him for San Francisco. He's desperate for a receiver. Anyway, point is I love the Brandon Strange. Let's go. Uh, so see, so I gave out my five. Kramer, do you have any left uh for your five? >> I've only given out three, I think. >> I think you g I've given out four. >> Okay, Kramer, give out your fourth and fifth. >> And I will point out, you want to get >> although Kramer has parlayed a few that he does not count to his list.

He said, >> well, I'm [laughter] on I'm on the Ted Hurst receiving yard. I'm on a Jaylen Daniels anytime touchdown. >> Yes, that's true. Um, another name to watch in that San Francisco game. Player who catches the ball. There are not numbers yet. Brandon Cooks was activated. >> Okay. So, this is another not prop. >> Well, I don't I don't have a number for it. I'm not going to I'm not going to tell you anything. >> Who do they have numbers for on that on that team? >> Uh, Hodge is on there. >> Not really open.

They have KD, they have black, they have use check. They don't have the receivers. >> They're uh they're playing with scared money. I guess I can real quick take a look at the TD markets to see if >> I mean if they activated Cooks are playing him. >> Okay, Brandon Cooks in the anytime is plus 850. >> That's interesting. Do we think he's going to hit the ground running? >> He's productive for Buffalo last year. >> When has he shown up to a team and not been useful on the field?

I love >> Obviously, there's something weird about him, but >> he's just an old school journeyman. All right, prop number four. >> Tyler Warren to go under his longest reception. >> Oh, >> the the >> Can we get Can we guess the longest reception? I like that game. >> You want to guess it? Go ahead. >> Uh 19 and a half. >> That seems high. >> I'd say I'm probably way up. >> I'd say 15 and a half. >> It's 18 and a half. >> And I agree cuz he's had his longs this year have been 15 8 and nine.

The Commanders haven't really given up a lot of big plays to the tight tight end outside of that one 43 yard pass to Dallas Gddard, but that was almost Dallas lined up uh out wide. >> Well, it's interesting. They've been really bad to allowing uh tight ends to get in the end zone, but not necessarily yards or catches. >> They've not been allowing explosive plays. and Tyler Warren his average um depth of target. You want to take a guess at that if we're going to play fun guessing game? >> 6.1. >> Sean, do you want to take a guess at Tyler Warren's average depth of target?

His a >> uh 4.9 >> 1.7. >> Also, they've been trying to get some screenshots. >> I was going to say I don't know what's a good or bad number. So, I just That's why I threw out six out there. >> Sounds It sounds like you know ball. and Sunny Styles who is highlights re of his coverage up there because he's a former safety who I imagine would be on Tyler Warren a lot is why I like this play. >> Uh yeah, so it's a bit it's a bit it's a bit of a big number in my mind and uh yeah so 18 and a half longest reception and to answer your question uh an a dot of a like a passcatching tight end >> pro a good like a good number is probably like eight or nine. >> Oh wow.

Okay. But they they must be it must just been a lot of screen stuff that they're trying to get going for him. >> They do they do have like design plays for too many. >> Just let him go. >> It's the first read Daniel Jones merch and stuff. You just got to get the ball out of his hands quick. Longer he has it, the more likely he is going to [ __ ] something up. All right, CJ. >> Too many weird Tyler Warren setup plays.

They they don't they don't let him be free. I don't think >> Let Tyler be Tyler. Does CJ have another one? >> CJ? >> I I do have a fifth. Yeah. >> Yeah. What's your fifth? I didn't know if you would also give an under. >> I gave two unders. I gave Keenan and I gave Jaylen Daniels running. And um we're gonna go with speaking of strange odd ducks. >> Matt Collins. >> Yeah, he is. >> Now we're talking. >> Six catches for 87 yards last week.

Nine targets. I mean, obviously Drake May is a disaster right now. So he needs >> But he loves his Mac. >> He loves his Mac because he can see him for crying out loud. You know what I mean? like he seems like, you know, he's 6'4, 220. Um, he has 76% snap rate and ran 26 routes, his highest marks in both both categories this year. Um, and yeah, it feels like he's and he's got good hands and it feels like that that's the only guy May's looking at now.

I mean, they have no receivers. Uh, Dobs is just terrible out there. I can't he just doesn't seem to be able to shake it. Hunter Henry is the second receiver, but it's all M. Collins. Buffalo gives up the fifth most uh passing yards allowed in the league. His number is three and a half 44 and a half. I mean, you can pick your poison with this one. I'm I'm I feel like this is a reception one as well. >> Matt Yeah, I would go yards or sorry, you like the receptions? >> I I like them both, but um you like yards over receptions there >> a little bit just cuz Matt Collins can get you a deep ball, like a deep jump ball, that kind of thing. >> What's his What's his A dot there, Kramer?

Yeah, pull up the adap for M. Collins. >> Oh, it's I can tell you off the top of my head. It's >> It's probably like 20. It's It's probably very very long. >> All right. >> When How often are they When is he being targeted when it's not like a 15 yard comeback or something like that? >> He's he he seems to be a classic button hook guy now, but he used to be the deep threat, but when when there was other receivers out there, but now he's he's >> A dot shorter now. >> No, no.

I'm saying it's I'm saying how often is he not like being targeted 15 20 yards down the field. >> Yeah, but he's obviously number one. >> 13.1. So that's Yeah, it's pretty strong. >> It's pretty strong. All right, Matt. Collins 44 and a half. >> Pretty strong for a guy who plays to be a blocker. >> Yes. >> Kramer, what is your fifth prop? >> All right. I'm I'm kind of cheating, but we're going to Sunday night because >> Oh, what?

We can do Sunday night. There's times where we have to remind people that there's a very nice tight end matchup here. >> I mean, who didn't look at that tight end lineup match up and say >> Darren Waller 50 to1 a couple weeks ago when I hit it bank, he's down to under 20 to1, 19 to1 on the two touchdown. That's pretty remarkable. That's not what I'm bringing you. I'm bringing you a Tommy Tremble prop. >> Oh, okay. >> Tommy Tremble's prop is at 12 and a half receiving yards.

He had 25 yards week one, only four week two against the Falcons in that um game that was that got out of hand. And then the Cleveland game, he had uh on four targets, three catches for 41 yards, 12 and a half, a very low number against this Detroit team that loves >> to give up stuff to the tight end. And >> I'll tell you right now, he'll be on my Sunday Night Football first touchdown card. His anytime touchdown >> and you we want to play one more one more guessing game.

Any time for Tommy Tremble? I'd say Tommy Trumble 850. >> Uh 550. >> Is Coker officially out then? >> I Yeah, I believe so. >> Doesn't look great. Leg gets out. So, the tight ends are going to get uh >> you think Waller um was given some rest this week, but it sounds like he's healthy, but he's now the number two. So, you wonder if uh yeah, Tommy Treble. >> Well, Jeremy Rucker and Sadique both got in. They had that crazy stat of uh the Lions have given up five tight end number one performances. >> Yeah, so far they they've given up um >> so week one they gave up uh three catches for 54 yards and a touchdown to Jawan Johnson.

Four catches for 33 yards and a touchdown to Noah Fant. Concincaid went seven for 95 and a touchdown. Knox two for five and a touchdown. Kenyan Sadi 7 for 105 and a touchdown and Rucker 5 for 39 in a touchdown. [clears throat] Every tight end who has caught a pass against the Lions has scored a touchdown. >> Insane. That Jeremy Rucker cash was so sweet. A crazy stat. >> Every tight end that has caught a ball in a game against the Lions has scored a touchdown. >> That's crazy. >> So, I guess do we just parlay Tremble and Waller to both have a touchdown? >> That would be fun. >> That's going to be juicy.

You got to love that. Uh stay tuned for the DJ uh only uh play. I got something uh some in that neighborhood. Uh let's put together a little underdog entry. You can play along. Tail us, fade us, do whatever. Underdog promo code SGPN. New offer from underdog. Play five, get a $100 in bonus bets. $10 bonus entry for 10 days. Bootober is alive. And well, if you're already on Underdog, you see all these sweet boosts they're throwing at you in the month of October. a good time to get in over on underdog promo code SGPN.

Kramer, let's put together underdog winner. What's uh what's the leg you like here? H we haven't discussed it yet, but it does seem like Christian McCaffrey and this Ner's team does have a good matchup on the ground. And normally I wouldn't promote a Christian McCaffrey play. His number is 660 something. >> Yeah. It's just will they will they give it's they love him so much in the passing game. >> That's >> this is a good matchup on the ground. >> Yeah, >> there's going to be explosive plays.

That would be my suggestion one. If you guys don't want to do that, my second suggestion would be Bryce Young passing touchdown. >> It's almost interesting the uh >> McCaffrey because we do you're right. We never do a Macaffrey thing. And >> well, and what what did I say? >> And to have his rushing is is interesting as well. I like it. >> It's it's well cuz normally it's a big ass number. Normally you're not getting you're rarely getting 60s something. >> Yeah, I like it. >> And to give you an idea, let's see.

Um you [clears throat] might remember week one with what uh what Kenneth Walker did to this Denver defense. >> Who could 23 for 173? Uh the Jags, even Toutton got over this number with only 13 carries. He had 65 yards. And then Kairen Williams on only 15 carries had 88 yards. >> Looked great. >> Just don't think he's going to need a tremendous volume. Sean, that would be my other push back. >> No, I like it. >> To your concern. >> I enjoy it.

I like it. >> CJ, uh, >> what do you like here? What do you say? What do you know? How about an old I like his old underdog target prop they are fun. Targets are fun because I don't know if it's going to be a case or what version you'll get of any of them. But we do know the Ben Johnson. We do know the system. >> Yeah. >> These numbers still aren't adjusted enough. They're adjusting slowly and slowly, but the people are still in denial about Khif Raymond. >> Yeah. >> Five and a half targets, three and a half receptions. >> That's crazy.

[laughter] >> Which one do you Which one do you like more? >> He's the number one receiver on this. >> His yards are good, too. 31 and a2 receiving [laughter] yards. >> That's crazy. >> Which that started what? Like 17. >> He started uh I played in week one. He was around 14. Then it doubled around 24 and 12 something like that. >> And it was in it was high 20s last week and now it's at what? >> 31 and a half yards. >> Nearly enough. >> Three and a half receptions, five and a half targets. >> It's almost like you know how Vegas has their power ratings before season and they get off them.

The fantasy community has their ratings. They will just not get off right. They are in denial. >> 5.65. 65 fantasy points also on the table. >> It's hilarious. Um, you can I mean, pick your menu there. You went to Targets. We could do yards, fantasy points. Target seems fun, >> I think. Did we already do yard, Sean? So, we should do something different. >> What do you mean? Did we already do yards? >> On the previous show, we we had Khalif Raymond. >> Okay.

Oh, did you? All right. >> No, no, but we can we didn't I think we did yards. >> Let's go higher. Five and a half targets for Khalif Raymond. All right. Uh, let's see. What do What am I going to get going here? I like uh I like the match up for Dalton Schultz. Again, I still think you can attack this. >> All right. Yeah, let's do that. >> You can attack this uh Cowboys team with uh the tight ends. And Dalton Schultz, I mean, had an insane game at home against the Bengals, 140 receiving yards.

He's had two solid games around that. Three for 30, four for 35. I think receptions are good. And I kind of want to go receiving yards, but what what of what of Daltton Schultz is your favorite, Craig? >> Well, we did our entry yesterday was Schultz touchdown Raymond yards. >> I like that. So, we want to reverse it now. Now, we got targets. >> Do Well, maybe Sean want wants to pivot since we gave out a Schultz. >> What's his longest >> pick it yesterday? >> Oh, you're right.

I did. 12 and a half. >> That's how much you like Schultz. >> His longest is 16 and a half. >> 16 and a half. >> Revenge game as well. So, do we want to play a cowboy? >> Oh, yes. You're right. And this is a rivalry. Let's go. Longest reception. Nice and random. >> I like the longest reception on Dalton. >> Okay. >> All right. Long% boost. >> Strat's pushing the ball downfield. I will say that. >> Well, 100% boost, but it's only a $20 max. >> Christian McCaffrey higher 65 and a half rush yards.

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Trade 25, get 25 only when you use a promo code SGPn. >> All right. So, all right. Yeah, there [clears throat] we go. I was just sharing the underdog answer. >> It's 100% boost for Bootober. I see >> I saved that one. So, a $20 max 100% boost. To me, that's like a I'm putting together like a five leagger. That's I'm going a little bit bigger cuz it's a smaller entry. What I did for this one was the move the chains 30% bonus, which I think they essentially each day you use a move the chains bonus. >> Yeah. >> As you get closer to the Sunday, the next day you'll get So, tomorrow I'll have a 40% waiting for me. >> Okay. >> That's why you want to keep play them every day. >> So, I want to play the move the chains.

You're saying >> play the move the chains and then save that uh boost one for a nice uh something a little longer that you're going to put a little less on. >> All right. So, it's um we each gave out five props, correct? >> Yep. >> Yes. >> So, uh CJ, do you want to give us a ladder? >> Sure. Of course, we'll give him a ladder as soon as I put in this uh underdog Christian McCaffrey higher rushing. Um >> yeah, you got a lot because if it hits and you don't have it, you just feel like >> Absolutely.

So, um like we said, we could fully shove in this Tampa Bay game. There's so much stuff to like here. There's so much stuff to love in this 0 and3 Bucks team with a rookie quarterback making his debut and undrafted. >> I mean the Hurst just going against a Yeah. >> Yeah. You're going against a horrible Packers team. Now we got Daniels rushing. We got Hurst over receiving yards which you could definitely ladder. >> Combo that up, huh? >> You push those together.

This one I tried week one. He's been absolutely dead on a rival these three games. Uh, but he's still a guy. I believe this is the game he will get. Well, they paid him $14 million. Kenneth Gainwell. I think Bucky Irving. I think Bucky Irving is going to have a big day. I think they're going to run the ball as much as they can, but they will be splitting up with gain. Bucky Irving is on a confirmed pitch count, which they said in the coaches.

He was best for the entire fourth quarter. They wanted they wanted to say his pass, >> but they paid Gainwell and they haven't been using him >> at all. I think this is the game where they will. He he returns kicks which is obviously not what they paid him for. >> A lot of issues with that team I guess >> but because of that you can get his number I mean you get some great great numbers on Kenny Gainwell with a rook undrafted rookie quarterback getting some pressure a lot of dump offs.

You can do receptions which goes pretty high or we just go receiving yards. I would like for receiving yards too because even if he doesn't get a lot of volume, Gainwell especially is capable of just breaking one off to get around to 50 yards. 25 yards is plus 333. I mean his lower lowest rung is 11 yards. Kenneth Gainwell receiving 25 yards plus 333. 40 yards 10 to1 50 yards is plus 1680. >> Oh boy. I mean, Kenneth Gainwell 60 yards rushing and this is a guy just take a couple screens and do this. >> I like this.

What's his any time right now? Let me look. >> 70 yards. Kenneth Gainwell. >> Climb this ladder as hard as high as you want to climb it. [laughter] >> And how high can you climb? What's the law? >> What's the law? >> What's the law here? What's the law? Like he's looking around. What's the law here with this ladder? >> What's the ladder law? 70 yards for Kenneth Gainwell receiving is 40 to1. Five to one on the anytime for those let's go wondering.

[clears throat] >> I mean 40 yards 10 to one seems pretty doable. >> So we we are certain that Bucky Irving is going to be restricted. >> He they said they they've announced that like what people ask why wasn't he even playing in the fourth quarter? Did he have a discipline problem? Was it a pass protection like like no we we've confirmed that he's getting he's like a 15 to 17 touch pitch count >> no matter what. All right, fair enough. >> Kramer. >> Uh, all right.

So, uh, CJ and I were actually talking about this a little bit before the show. >> Mhm. During rehearsal, >> during the rehearsal that Sean um I think he he missed again. >> Yes, I'm a diva. >> Cal Ripken like he was like Pino and Glengary Glenn Ross rolling in halfway through the meet the meeting. >> Unfucking believable. Uh anyway, so we're we not really sure how this game is going to go, but I do think that you can uh there's an area to attack with this Colts defense and it's over the middle of the field. >> And we we saw the splashy graphics after week one where Antonio Williams was creating all this separation.

Yep. Antonio Williams was he had ex extraordinary advanced numbers considering he's a guy that almost nobody knows anything about. And so uh we're going to latter his receptions and uh sorry I'm just I'm looking to see cuz I I kind of only played the top two rungs here but let me just double check something. uh >> and the Colts have been bad against the the kind of middle slot and maybe it just ends up being a Steph Dig situation, but you look at what uh Xavier Hutchinson did last week, five catches.

You look at the week before that, Jacobe Meyers had six. And so I think there's going to be some opportunities for him, espe you know, my thesis on the tight end from a couple weeks ago didn't come out very well. U there just isn't really a tight end doing much of anything in that part of the field. So Antonio Williams his baseline number is kind of wonky. Uh it's very juiced both ways. So we're just going to do very simply and and uh if you look at his game log.

Uh he had two catches last week against the Seahawks. He had which is a tough matchup. He had three catches the week before that. Four catches against the Eagles. So, we're going to start right at three catches at plus 180. >> Mhm. >> We're going to then go four plus catches at plus 410 and five plus catches at plus 900. >> So, just a quick little ladder there. But, uh, against this Colts team, I think again, Hutchinson just coming off a game where he had five, Jacobe Meyers had six.

That's the same space in the field. Uh, if we're wrong, it's going to all go to Digs, but I'm betting that it doesn't. So, um, and actually shop around. You can get the five plus over at the Green Book for 12 to one. Oh my goodness. >> Look out. >> All right, I'm going uh premium ladder shopping. Oh, really? His base numbers uh I think in the 50s, but I mean Michael Wilson I think is set for a massive game against this Giant secondary.

Really? >> I do. Yeah. >> Are you chasing ladders? Are you a ladder chaser? >> What do you mean? >> Well, I was on the Michael Wilson ladder last week. >> Well, extend the ladder. Ex keep it keep it extended, Ryan. >> Uh 80 90 yards is plus 360. 100 yards plus 534 110 780 120 1160. What's the law? Give me 130 receiving yards for Michael Wilson at 1740. >> I think this is a great matchup against this Giant secondary. And Joe, I mean, Wilson has crazy upside.

He had two 140 yard games last year. The Giants already gave up 195 to Devonte Adams. And I think uh Versett's going to just keep keep firing. >> Well, good luck. What is >> I I you know feel bad for the audience two weeks in a row of Michael Wilson ladders. Hopefully it hits this week. >> They don't want to give back some hard earned money on the Michael Wilson ladder from last week. >> He he looked amazing last week.

He ran every route possible. He ran what what did you want to do? >> He looked a little banged up coming out of the camp. I got to be honest. >> They worked them. That's why. I mean, my god. Marvin Harrison up to slack at all anywhere. >> Yeah, they have a great connection. And like you said, Ryan, attack the outside receivers against >> that would be the weakness in the Giants. Yes. >> Uh CJ, let's close things out with the DJ parlay. >> Do the degenerate. >> Do the Giants have to play keep away from Jacobe Brassette?

Is that your game plan there? >> Uh I think that's going to generally be their game plan. >> It's a funny thing to say >> until Dart comes back for the postseason. >> All right. Um, that line's moved a lot, huh? >> Which one? >> The Arizona's two and a half now. >> You know, Arizona getting a lot of love. Every sharp out there has a plus money price on the money line for the Arizona Cardinals. We all know what that means. >> The look headline was seven and a half.

That's a ninepoint swing. >> Uh, you know, I tried to explain this to Sean. >> Seems like a lot. >> I tried to explain this to Sean yesterday. >> Anyway, um, this is what I've never done before. Three guys, three fellas. >> You're going, "Oh, three, not two chicks at the same time." At the same time, three fellas doing two things. One thing twice, three quarterbacks throwing two interceptions in a game. >> Oh, I didn't see that coming. >> No one sees it coming. >> Didn't see it coming, >> but it seems fun to do.

You want quarterbacks that can do it, quarterbacks that won't be pulled, obviously. >> Not scared to do it. Um, I would love to have tossed a Beijing or someone in there, but you the Jets still have not intercepted the ball in about two years, whatever it is. Kyler Murray will start off two interceptions. When last seen in Minnesota, he threw an interception, his first pass, concussed the next. Did not look great down at Tampa Bay. >> No. >> Um, obviously he's going to be one of putting it around the Miami Dolphins.

So, it's going to be uh they're not practice, but they'll be trying out things. He's going to be reckless, I believe, with it. Kyler Murray, two interceptions. >> Yes. >> Patrick Mahomes, two interceptions for the young, ambitious Raiders defense. Uh that's that very ball opportunistic. Well, they're very turnover happy. Uh Mahomes not afraid to throw a lot of interceptions in in a in a reckless game. And Bo Knicks, this one's a lock in standalone play.

This should have made the prop sheet anyway. >> Oh wow. >> In front of Sean. The way they talk about Bo Nicks and Brock Perie, like they are the same person is disgusting to [laughter] me. Um, couldn't agree more. This line is insane to me. Everything about this thing. Bo Nicks >> very reckless with the ball, especially on the road. We last last seen in Kansas City on Monday night. This Denver Broncos team on their own.

Absolute disaster. Give me Bo Knicks, Kyler Murray, Patrick Mahomes. Both the throw all the throw to interceptions 181 to one. >> Oh my god. And just like taking a knee counts for rushing attempts, Hail Marys and halftime Hail Marys interceptions count for all kinds of interception sets. It doesn't they don't have to be back breaking interceptions. They can be they could be just as good as a punt interceptions, you know, which maybe Bo would do with a strong arm. >> All right, for my DJ only parlay.

Love taking in the first touchdown market. And we have two uh good options in these prime time/London games. the London game. Tyler Warren getting the first touchdown. He's around 10 to one. And then you get to sweat out the entire day as you wait for Sunday night football where Darren Waller is catching the first touchdown. Parlay those two together. 219 to one. Wow. >> So, two first touchdowns. >> Yes. At all. And Kramer, I did want to say I wanted to put Kirk Cousins obviously in the double interception one, but his number is just way too But his number is way too low.

Wouldn't even worth wouldn't even wouldn't even make it a DJ. >> Two interception. What what is this? Two interceptions. >> It's like even money for two interception. No, it's not. It's not even money, but it's nowhere. Nowhere close to where something fun would be in there, you know. [snorts] >> All right. Ready? >> You're up. >> 115 to one. >> Three quarterbacks score a rushing touchdown. >> Okay. This is fun. >> Jaylen Daniels, you already talked about it.

Perfect. >> Him scoring a touchdown will probably be a uh cornerstone piece of the weekend. [laughter] Tyson Beagent. >> Love it. >> Oh, >> anytime touchdown. It's sitting around 5 to1. >> Son of an arm wrestler. >> And um because he has to Trevor Lawrence. >> He owes us. >> Anytime touchdown against the Bengals who maybe they get some of that interior pressure. >> You're right. He owes us. >> 15 to one for those three guys to get in the end zone. >> Very juicy.

Good work. Fun stuff. >> I'll pro I I'm almost certainly going to round Robin though. I was going to say any chance Tootton takes a knee at the one to give to give Lawrence a sneak. [laughter] >> I think so. I think this is one of these things where now like the the whole team sees how Trevor got made look to look like a fool. >> Yeah. >> And they It's just >> they're just routing teams so much they're joking around on the field.

I like that. I like that. >> I mean, he tends to use his legs more in the guy got to have it games. We've seen that last couple years. >> But I was But that was funny. That's like the little known aspect of the not little known aspect, not talked about as much of the dumb play Lawrence by taking a knee at the one. But they were just >> five minutes left. I mean eight minutes left. But like and like yeah it was stupid what he did but like but but the the underlying part of that is they're routing them so much.

They were just messing around on the field like whatever. You know what I mean? >> That's [laughter] the crazy part is that Trevor Lawrence and the Jazz are so good they can make a hilariously bad embarrassing mistake and still >> bank. >> Let's go. Let's go hit a first touchdown. >> Let's climb these ladders. Let's hit these DGEN props. We got some games to watch. Tune in to our VSON shows uh Friday and Saturday 7:00 Pacific, YouTube TV, VSON 189.

And of course, as always, >> thank you for participating in the SPORTS GAMBLING PODCAST >> FOR THE SPORTS GAME PODCAST. I'm Sean Second the Money Green. He's Ryan. >> See you next time. >> Kramer, let it ride. >> Yay. [laughter] Heat. Heat. >> [music]